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Thank you for all your diligence, Gigantor. Even folks like me who don't post much noticed your efforts and impact. And big congratulations to Norseman! Best of luck to you herding all these cats!

great video links. I had an experience this last summer where there was a massive tree fallings or rock falling sound but the weird part was it lasted much longer than a tree fall would last and there wasn't much of a difference between the start of the sound and the end part, where you would generally expect to hear a fall off in sound levels. It was quite interesting. I just laid still in my tent and I waited and was not disappointed. 10 minutes later I heard a 4 tone singing like sound like it was being played over a concert speaker. The song/call lasted more than 30 seconds. As I reflect on it, it was beautiful and it sounded like something was singing me a song. Video #4 has some very similar sounds in it to what I heard. Its nice to find a reference point. Thank you for sharing these.

Thanks for all your diligence and technical prowess, gigantor! This forum would not have survived without you! Congratulations Norse and Thank you for the commitment to keeping this place going!

Congratulations Norseman, you’ll be a good director! Hope you still have time to share pics from your trail cam. Thanks and deep appreciation to Gigantor for all your efforts as director and tech stuff to keep us happily online.

Congratulations, Gigantor for a successful term. Hope you stay around and comment occasionally!

@Backdoc Great questions, and it's not unusual for folks in this community to be confused about issues of DNA. For one, most of the info floating around the BF community is misinformation (most of it hopefully unintentionally so). It is also difficult for folks to understand (without actually knowing about DNA methods) why scientists can do some almost "magical" things with DNA in some areas and yet other areas of knowledge are not yet well fleshed out at all. I check in on the BFF only every few months to see what folks are asking/posting that's DNA-related. Not bragging, but stating a fact: I am the only one leading credible DNA study of potential Sasquatch samples: https://sites.google.com/ncsu.edu/darbyorcutt/ Please LMK what questions you may have, as I'm sure others have the same ones. Cliff Barackman wants me to come back on his podcast soon, and I want to address the things that things that folks in the BF community are wondering about. The *brief* answers to your questions are: 1) There has been very little credible testing of potential BF DNA, period. Cliff mentioned my work on tracking down prior testing during his last Q&A podcast. Most "results" are rumors, misunderstandings, or made-for-TV fictions or spin. 2) Yes, if Bigfoot is indeed an unknown species, we'd absolutely be able to tell that if we were presented with BF DNA samples. That said, depending on what a potential such species actually were, it might require a qualified team actually really looking for such to find it (which is one of the reasons I started this project). 3) Environmental DNA (eDNA) techniques are extremely powerful for looking for *known* DNA sequences, which is why the almost magical examples that you mention (Covid detection in wastewater, Grizzly detection in the wild). Generally speaking, eDNA is an exceedingly much harder path towards discovery of new species. Darby Orcutt NC State University