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This is a drawing of my first encounter. Late 70's, so no cell phones. I have explained it before, but thought a drawing of it would help. I will post the drawing and then post an explanation a little later.

This one is kinda long, so I will do it in chapters. I don't like long typing sessions. Chapter one: The area and events leading up to the encounter The events occurred near the extinct townsite of Valsetz Oregon in the east side of the Oregon Coast range 16 miles from the nearest town, which is Falls City. It was in the early 90's and I was bow hunting with several different people over a period of time. On more than one occasion, we would hear wood knocks frequently above the townsite on the south east slope of Sugarloaf mountain and near the cliffside of Rooster Rock. Wood knocks were becoming common in our hunting area. We had not heard them before that we could remember and we had no idea what was making them. The incident I will relate happened to the south east of Rooster Rock about maybe three miles away on what is known as the Valsetz Flats. There are old logging roads that had grown over and was now basically wide ways with a well worn game trail down the middle. My brother and I were bowhunting and decided to walk up a gated logging road that would take us from the Flats to Fanno Ridge. We hadn't been on this road in many years, so we wanted to hunt up it and it's side roads more for nostalgic reasons than anything, though, at that time, elk were abundant in the area.

For the record, Reddit is a dump, designed to elicit one word replies and ruled by leftist statist trolls who would as soon set you on fire as entertain your opinion if you don't strictly follow the populist zeitgeist. R/Bigfoot is thus a cesspool of short attention span theater with constant repeating deluge of AI garbage, repeated photo posts and people who can't be bothered to Google something. It's fine that it exists, it keeps that kind of idiot off here.

Posted 5 hours ago OK TIME TO JOIN AND BE A POSITIVE CONTRIBUTOR. I've lurked this site, quite a while and have dove deep into the archives. Frankly, it appears that the powers that be, Mods, Admins, etc. are probably the reason this site has fallen intro the septic tank . BEING A THREE STAR MAJOR, I'VE NEVER SEEN THE MODS OR GENERALS WHO HAVE 5 OR MORE STARS BE UNFAIR TO THOSE WHO RECENTLY JOINED THE FORUM. The ridiculous (in both length and proclamation) TOS is laughable. WHAT IS TOS? Mods here have gone out of there way to make newbies feel unwelcome and it looks like they lay in the weeds ready to pounce on an unsuspecting member with the ban hammer. THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AND MANY OF THE MODS OR GENERALS WITH 5 STARS OF MORE FREELY COMMUNICATE WITH NEW-COMERS AND TREAT THEM WITH RESPECT. SOME NEWBIES HAVE HAD A CLASS A SIGHTING WHILE OTHERS SADLY WILL NOT LUCK OUT AND HAVE A SIGHTING. BIGFOOTS ARE EXTREMELY SHY AND NEVER WANT TO BE SEEN BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY WILL BE HUNTED. THEY SMELL HUMANS BEFORE WE SEE THEM. I JOINED BECAUSE I HAD A LUCKY IN PERSON SIGHTING WHILE SLEEPING OUT IN THE NATIONAL FOREST WHILE ON A COMMERCIAL FIREWOOD CUTTING TRIP WITH MY PARTNER BILL. THIS HAPPENED A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE I FOUND OUT ABOUT THE FORUM. An internet power trip = a degenerate not quite ready for prime time. Many of you have ran off people who could contribute, but since they might not believe in exactly what you believe, the troll label gets slapped on someone. CAN SOMEONE DEFINE A TROLL. IS IT SOME PERSON WHO SIMPLY WANTS TO AGRAVATE AND DISRUPT. WE MAY HAVE HAD ONE MODERATOR WHO HAD AN ATTITUDE BUT I DON'T SEE RECENT POSTS FROM THIS PERSON. And, hmm, wonder why hardly anybody participates on this site?! IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE THE PGF PATTERSON GIMLIM FILM IS GETTING OLD AND REAL UP-CLOSE SIGHTINGS ARE RARE.