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I was a cop for 27 years. I carried, in one flavor or another, a Glock model of some sort/caliber depending upon the whims and tides of the agency. I started with a Glock 17 in 9mm in 1990, then the department became convinced that we needed 40 cal, so we went to the Glock 22 in 1994, then for what seemed to be about five minutes in the early 2000s we went to the Glock 21 in 45ACP..........then back to the Glock 17 in 9mm again. Ugh. That said, I trust the Glock platform 100% and have carried Glock on duty, off duty, shooting in multiple competition disciplines for over 35 years and now since I am retired from LE and a practicing attorney....I still carry a Glock 19 in 9mm. That said....in the woods, mountains, or desert....I carry a Glock Model 20 in 10mm with Buffalo Bore Hard Cast 200 grain TCFP. It screams out at 1300fps, penetrates deeply, and gives me 16 rounds on tap with a pair of 15 round magazines on my belt for very little weight cost versus ballistic payload, and weight is a consideration because of two knee and a hip replacement as the result of a line-of-duty injury. But, let's be clear....I don't carry to defend myself from a Sasquatch primarily....it's probably 10th down on my list. The reality is I am convinced that they are dangerous, but not aggressive unless you push the action and so I consider the likelihood of having to engage one to be incredibly remote just based on the number of interactions I have had (1 in 1993) compared to the thousands of hours I have spent in the woods, mountains, and desert over the decades. Add to that the credible interactions that others have had where no one had to shoot one. Ape Canyon notwithstanding, but let's face it Fred Beck shot one of them, so yeah...they's be pissed. I'm not convinced Justin Smeja shot one as he claimed, so I am not going to say he did or he didn't, only that I am not convinced he did. So, the reality is that I carry my 10mm as insurance against bear, mountain lion, feral dogs, wild hogs which I consider to be the most likely threat, and of course humans with bad intent. Looking back to 1993 when I had my face to face encounter, with decades of hindsight....the thought I had back then that I was going to have to defend myself from the Sasquatch was PROBABLY initiated by ME and my body language or a scent I gve off that caused a defensive posture reaction response in the creature. I had been a cop for 5 years by this time and my thinking was "threat focused" and "threat management" and "aggression response" and the stimuli of being face to face with something I didn't believe existed back then, or at least didn't believe was a "Michigan Thing" reset my brain clock in a microsecond and my whole reality changed. I am still nine out of ten toes in the "no kill" camp, and I sure as hell don't want to ever be forced to shoot one. I'd like to see another one, not just hear wood knocks and a couple of suspected vocalizations, and see some suspected prints...but just have that moment where I could experience it again and NOT be thinking "tactically" but more like "Okay, what can I learn?". Sorry for the long post. Once I got to typing, I got too lazy to stop.2 points
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After having numerous encounters, with others having sightings at the same time, I became a little fearful of hunting and hiking alone in the woods. I enjoy it too much to stop and I face my fears. After being stalked by a mountain lion at close range, I fear that more than sasquatches especially after 56 years of being in the woods and no sasquatches or mt. lions for that matter have harmed me. So, I think that falling or having a medical emergency alone in the woods is much more likely to kill me than any critters large or small in the Oregon woods.2 points
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Yes, I think there were archaic human species that reached the New World, too. Here is possibly an archaic human footprint from Kansas: https://faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/kansas/kansas.htm Although it could be faked from the similar looking Burtele foot which was discovered the same year as this foot print pictures were uploaded to the website. And here is well documented site of potentially archaic humans in Hueyatlaco, Mexico:1 point
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Agreed, along with numerous other negative interactions. But, along the positive side, there are the Dian Fosseys and Jane Goodalls out there who would habituate with the sasquatches in order to learn about them in the right way. Indeed, that might have already occurred................or is occurring now. I note the approach taken by the Olympic Project, which I'm very happy with. Moreover, it is supposedly on private lands, which allows research without government interference. There are other researchers out there conducting similar research on public lands, and with government behaving from a position of ignorance, as long as no harvest occurs, no foul. And who cares if Joe Blow in downtown Dallas doesn't know about it?1 point
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Hello from North Carolina. I have interest in archaic humans species, and thought people on big-foot forum may have share my interest in archaic humans. Here is videos of potentially archaic human site from New World:1 point
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Interesting takes on What the Government might do question I was proposing. You guys might be right on target. I can dream up some really positive scenarios and some really negative ones. The only prediction I will make for sure is this: The government would not stop (and the public would demand) a live Bigfoot in a cage. If this happened, I would be fascinated for 24hrs and then sad the rest of my life.1 point
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Losing Jeff was a blow. I had the great pleasure to speak with him several times and share a lunch. His mind was...amazing. He will be missed.1 point
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Bedlam. Just to start, the environmental industry (and every lawyer associated with them) begin suits to limit homo sapien activities of all kinds in Bigfoot range in order to honor the "Indigenous and tribal peoples’ rights over their ancestral lands and natural resources: Norms and jurisprudence of the inter‐American human rights system. OEA/Ser.L/V/II, December 30, 2009" http://www.oas.org/en/iachr/indigenous/docs/pdf/report-indigenous-peoples-voluntary-isolation.pdf The circus would grow from there.............. Unknown. It would take decades for government to deal with it legislatively and judicially. In the meantime, temporary measures would be initiated to keep sasquatches safe from people until the courts finally rule on measures. Again, it would take years to really get a good idea of the extent of social, commercial, environmental, and other damage that would occur. A good example would be how people react to a gold strike. As an Alaskan, I have a really good grasp of it, both currently (gold at $3500+ per ounce as I type) and historical, and how it affected aboriginal peoples, but an even better example would be the gold rush in the Black Hills of South Dakota on sacred Lakota land protected by the Fort Laramie Treaty of 1868, which resulted in a mass violation of the treaty, sparking mass migration of miners into the region. This led to increased conflict between the US and Lakota, known as the Great Sioux War of 1876, which was pretty much the final nail in the coffin of some 400 years of Indian Wars in North America.1 point
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Bragging rights. He was the most amazing horse I had ever seen. And he was a real Appy. Ugly as sin. Rat tail, chicken specks all over him. But he was tough and super calm and smart. We shot a real nice mule deer buck up by bear pasture above the meadows. Almost killed two horses trying to get it out. Finally gave up in the dark. Took Chislum up the next day and loaded that deer up and he walked it right out of there. Big ravine we had to cross. No problem. Just an awesome animal. Worth his weight in gold. Packing was the most rewarding hobby I have ever did in my life.1 point
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Godspeed Dr. Meldrum can't say I agreed with you on much, but at least you made sense and were a pleasure to listen to.1 point
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So sorry for his family. A very courageous intelligent man. He will certainly be sorely missed.1 point
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IMO, a successful group would be an anarcho-democratic confederacy, all agents capable and willing to operate solo, have a shared view on the approach and enough experience to recognize the best option in any circumstance, even if it isn't one's own. Doesn't sound difficult to pull together but I'm sure it is.1 point
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Love that country. In ‘87 I was a dumb Eastern kid who had never set a boot to ground west of Memphis. So, not feeling like I was getting any younger, I hopped a flight to Denver, a midnight bus to Rock Springs and thumbed to the Green River Lakes trailhead. With a xerox copy of Finis Mitchell’s hand-drawn map as my only navigational, I wandered for 10 days down to Big Sandy. Ain’t been right in the head since. 😀1 point
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Camera was likely set up to observe deer coming to piles of corn. Photo appears to be tightly cropped from a larger image. Encircled image appears to be an owl diving ,likely toward rodent at bait site. Owl's wings and tail feathers flared slightly. Deer between camera and owl spooked by fast and silently approaching owl. Tip of birds right wing overlaps edge of the big tree image. Body feathers fluffed while slowing dive speed.1 point
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