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We aren't talking about dumb animals. They know their home ranges like the back of their hands, They would notice a typically mounted game camera as quick as you would if someone put one on a fence post or tree in your own yard. (And if a game camera is put up within a mile of their bedding area, one of the clan would likely watch you do it. Been there, done that. Last time was July 27, 2010.)

Maybe they should be looking in places where they aren't having sightings or rocks thrown at em, eh? Has anyone claimed this is proof anyway? You interjected that, why?

^^ There'll be peace when this thread is dooone.

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You're making an incorrect assumption here that all Elk will roll back into a rest position. Did you watch the second video I posted? The Elk doesn't roll into a rest position- it goes right up onto it's feet. It doesn't leave a second body impression and 3 of it's 4 legs are outside of the initial impression. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZN7T3wtwK8 The hooves are NOT where you guys are claiming they have to be, and it doesn't need to levitate. There were hoof prints everywhere around the Skookum cast to follow. Why would this even be debated? That's fine, but you're not telling us why it's a bear. What is the evidence that would point to a bear?

Haven't been closely following this thread, but should have. I totally agree with Gumshoeye and Norseman about the cartoon, Totally silly. BF does talk, no question in my mind about that. If you hear one talking just as it passes a sound dish, 50 feet away, and your are listening to the amplified sounds with headphones at 2 AM in the boondocks, it's not something you will soon forget. When, a few seconds later, it's looking into the back window of a camper shell where you've been sleeping, and its about 3 feet from you, the sight and sounds are never forgotten. If you listen to the Sierra Sounds CD closely, you will hear one of the big males ask a question of the men, and repeat it when the men don't respond. The question to the reader is; what is the question the BF is asking? :-) They are a clan of humans, but not modern humans. They will live, forage and eat in a particular area until modern humans or natural disasters force them to leave. The will abide human presence as long as we do not interfere with their hunting/foraging, or try to ambush them - with gun or camera - at their cold water drinking sources in hot weather, or try to approach the family's bedding site day or night. Otherwise, they are simply having a little fun when they mess with folks, especially late at night. If anyone spends enough time in their territory, both day and night, and you show no fear of them, and show respect for their rules, one or more will eventually allow you to briefly and clearly see them. They realize that us humans are more advanced than they. In the back of my mind I believe that natural instincts urge them to capture and mate with Homo sapiens to improve their blood lines. It may be that they think that by kidnapping children, removing their clothing and carrying them into the boonies, they hope to raise them so that the children can then teach them the things that we know. They don't (or can't) understand that our children can't survive in the wilderness as their's do. (As mentioned, this paragraph is absolutely without a whit of evidence, and solely a thought that often enters my gourd.)

you have to break out of denial. It is shown again and again that many animals can detect game cams. It's only 'magic' if you don't understand it, or refuse to. As has been pointed out, trail cams can and are spotted and avoided by certain animals.

At 1:29 you will see an elk, push off with it's fore wrists, leap from the wallow with it's rear legs, it's front hooves landing well out of the elk wallow. This Elk was being shot, but I'm sure the reaction would be similar if DDA ripped one in the tent, or a logging truck drove by a few yards away.

Here's another Elk laying on it's side before it gets up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZN7T3wtwK8 It doesn't leave a second impression, it rolls over right onto it's feet and stands up. No second body impression. It's rear leg steps back into the impression but it clearly doesn't have to. The front hooves don't go into the impression at all.

The elk can roll up off of its side yes. But what your failing to account for is that in your second picture? The elk is still laying on the ground yes? And that contact with the ground is still going to give you a body impression correct? The belly, the hocks, the hips, the knees, etc....... and with THAT secondary body impression we should be seeing four hoof prints within the impression. I do not see that the skookum cast. What DWA is trying to tell you is the skookum impression goes from your 1st picture to walking off without leaving four hoof prints. I hold to the fact that is not possible. Beyond this? I have no idea what is going on there.

Sightings and tracks are how I hunt. Thats what a hunter scouts for when selecting an area to hunt. So I have to ask you this....... if sightings are nothing but campfire bs? Then were does a pro kill proponent start? If there is a cryptid out there to shoot? At some point you have to start taking someone seriously......

Sightings are of little value in their quest for proof? Couldnt disagree more. If you cannot see it? You cannot shoot it...