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Cryptic-I bet you have an old Aretha Franklin album lying around somewhere. Before the question of whether BF science has stalled, I believe you have to define the parameters of what you consider science, and just exactly what you are trying to prove. Are you trying to merely prove the existence of the creature, and if so, are you going about it? I really doubt that even a lengthy HD video of a BF would convince the mainstream scientific community, and I'm not fully convinced that a BF body would do much better. It would only prove existence of one creature, not that there are others out there. If the infighting, jealousy, egos, and in some cases financial gain of much of the BF community were put aside, and the community made a concerted effort, no doubt much more meaningful evidence could be produced. I am sure that many members here either have some pretty convincing evidence, or know someone who has, but that evidence will never be revealed, except to a selected few. With all of that being said, I think that if BF were proven to exist to the public at large, the BF would ultimately suffer. Even though some members of this forum believe that the government, big corporations, etc. are out to eradicate BF populations (and they may be right), I believe that BF are resilient and adaptable beings. They don't need our help-I believe they have done very well for a long time without it. As far as their existence being proven to vindicate my beliefs, I could care less; I don't have any desire to tell people "Ha-I told you so." I don't have to prove anything to anyone, in that respect. To those people who do not believe in their existence, that is their privilege, but if those individuals are truly interested in trying to find the truth, they need to "put boots on the ground."

But I do have proof, despite your feigning not to see it. Strike 1- Her paper does not support her hypothesis that she has a complete Sasquatch genome. Her data shows she has fragments of DNA, both human and animal, including possom. Which is not evolutionarily viable. Strike 2- Instead of using a peer reviewed journal she publishes her paper through her newly opened Denovo website she owns. A scientific biggie no no. She counters that no peer reviewed journal would publish her paper.....see strike number one above. Strike 3- Her DNA lab had a F rating with the better business bureau. Strike 4- She now has moved on to Dog man, a mythical bipedal canid. Which explains alot about her Sasquatch study. See the part about "not evolutionarily viable" in strike number one. Not even going to get into the star child skull. Everything I have stated above I have linked to my sources in previous posts. They are not utterances.... If Yuchi wants to put stock in her paper or her future works? Its a free country

I saw your write up and photos of the outing, I wish I could have ridden shotgun with you up there, extra eyes on the trail. That looks very much like the trip Jim and my daughter Andi and I took up the Chehalis watershed a few weeks ago, but we managed about 20 km in the snow before I had to give up and turn around. We saw only deer and coyote tracks there. We were delighted to meet you last weekend, and look forward to your return when the boat repairs are done. As Magni said a while ago, you're welcome at our campfire any time.:-)

Just checking in, made it up about three miles past Lake Ellen in Ferry county yesterday. Snow pack this year is good. Saw lots of Moose sign. How is everyone else making out? Good I hope. I also had dinner last weekend with BC Witness, Magniaesir and Thomas Steenburg (and family). I had a great time, and they are all good people.

Dlaw:: " I really doubt that even a lengthy HD video of a BF would convince the mainstream scientific community, and I'm not fully convinced that a BF body would do much better. It would only prove existence of one creature, not that there are others out there." I agree about the HD video as proof. The scientific significance of one body only, points to either last surviving member of a species, or places where science does not want to go. Science would investigate the first option and try to locate more without even considering the second because it would require BF to be extra terrestrial and some sort of ET survivor to be one of a kind. For there to be any there has to have been a breeding population within the subject's lifetime. They are not going to jump from presumed myth to alien just because they have a body on a lab table. The other factor that will be part ff the discovery process, is where did the bone or body come from? If I plunked a BF skull down on Meldrum's desk his first question would be where did it come from?. It is pretty easy for main stream science to accept a new primate species discovery from bones in Africa, we get them every few years. But discovery of one in North America will take some investigation to vet. A large portion of main stream science would think I found it in Africa or South America and am trying to hoax. My point is that the whole process is not as easy as it would seem.

Back to the subject of why BF science has stalled... It is depressing. Sometimes I wish the Steering Committee would pass a rule to only allow flesh and bone BF discussions... I really think that being inclusive; allowing paranormal stuff, is what derails this forum and the community from being productive. People spend a lot of time and energy arguing about non-sense (IMO) instead of focusing on practical ways to tackle the problem of discovery. It also causes scientists to shun the subject, they won't touch it because of all the paranormal claims. It's sad.

Of the 117 actual visual reports, 62% have been in daylight hours. Of the reports in hours of darkness, the Waxing Gibbous moon phase is considerably the most popular moon phase to have a sighting. It's interesting to note that in the last 10 years of all night time actual visual sightings in hours of darkness, the moon has not been visible for any of them. From all reports when the person reporting the encounter have been camping (49), 80% of those where a time was logged in the report have come in the hours of darkness, with only 6% of all reports being actual visual sightings (all of which came in 1995) all of which were in daylight hours.

I've offered to do a little something for Joe and his team from the SSR numbers so I'll also share it on here for those that are interested in the potential of what we can do. Hopefully ill add tomorrow.

I'm strictly catch and release, unless it's a hatchery brat raised for the grill. However, should a 9' friend appear and "suggest" I make a gift of my catch should I be so fortunate, you can be sure he'd get it. And likely my Spey rod and reel as I jump in and swim to the opposite side of the river. But yes, I'll be bank watching for sure.