Bill Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Strick: I actually wasn't trying to be "Zen-like" or cryptic, more like simply acknowledging your stated position that you don't feel the PGF has enough information to reach a conclusion (hope I'm paraphrasing you responsibly), and in that matter I sort of agree, in that I can see enough to give me confidence to conclude its a real film, but not enough material for me to structure a formal proof that others can rely upon. Kind of reminds me of a wonderful line in a great film called "And The Band Played On" (about the CDC's efforts to identify the AIDS virus) and in their meetings the staff would review the status with "What do we think, what do we know, and what can we prove". With the PGF, I know it's real, but proving it is harder, so others who don't have my image database and my background making creature costumes could reasonably be unsure if its real, not seeing what I see, not knowing many subtle matters about suits that I know. But proving it requires a more rigorous "falsifying the alternative" and that part needs work and money, and I'm still looking at how to resolve the funding thing. Anyways, just summing up my remarks in a simple form, I think enough evidence is "out there" to really solve this, and I am aiming to get it and use it to attain a proof that many people like yourself will have confidence in. On the other issue, I've decided that I should probably just not comment further, and wait and see if and when the Erickson Project does release a DVD and then, see what's on it, and take it from there. Bill
Guest LAL Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Wait for the peer review! Oh, wait..........wrong thread.
Guest Jodie Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Well you know, this thread probably deserves to get eaten by that forum cryptid commonly known as "The Glitch" too.
Big Stinky Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Hi Bill, I'm sorry my earlier post was ambiguous. I am not skeptical about your research into the PGF but more the film itself. I'm just not convinced there's enough information in the original footage for me to come to a firm conclusion one way or the other on the nature of its subject. I in no way cast any aspersions on either you or the quality of your research. For me, the PGF is not the most compelling part of the Bigfoot mystery and, to be completely candid, the endless speculation has come to bore me. Although, I tend to avoid discussion of the PGF, I am well aware of your reputation in the field, background and areas of expertise. In my opinion, your qualifications as a putative Bigfoot film analyst are second to none. That is why it is so significant to me that you believe the portion of Erikson footage you have viewed to be a person wearing an adapted Chewbacca mask. I realise other researchers have viewed the footage and commented but, to my knowlwdge, none of them are experts on the analysis of film. JohnC, I take your point and don't wish to be seen as a gossip monger! I realise that at no point has Bill mentioned that he's seen ALL of the Erikson footage or, indeed, 'the best' - and he has not specifically commented on the 'Matilda' sequence, which I think is generally believed to be film of a female Bigfoot sleeping in the forest and then waking up. I understand that Bill has an obligation to his sources and doesn't want to break any confidences. It would be unfair to push him for specifics that he is unable to give. However, I find it unlikely that Erikson went to all the trouble to send Bill his 'B' footage while keeping the really good stuff up his sleeve. That would be kind of insulting to Bill. It is a commonly held belief in Bigfooting that people have really good footage or pics sititing at home that they do not want to share with the rest of us for a variety of unconvincing reasons. I have never bought that argument - it's just the product of wishful thinking. I know this is a thread on Erickson but in quick regards to the PG film, personally I was on the fence with this as well but leaning to authentic. Bills finally analysis of a human model overlay going joint to joint with Patty was the clincher as fabricating the joint ratios outside of human proportion is pretty much impossible. Great job on that Bill... Stinky
Guest Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 It appears that Dr. Ketchum is no longer part of the Erickson team again. She's in, she's out, what the heck? http://www.sasquatchthequest.com/team.html I wish these sects would get their act together and stick with it. I have a feeling money and notoriety are getting in the way. Speaking of money, I am sure the NABS store will be ready with plenty of chotchkies to coincide with the release of the Ketchum Project.
Guest Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 It would seem, JMO, altho they have cooperated one is a research org and she runs a genetics biz......no reason she SHOULD be listed as a member of the research team as she hasn't gone out in the field with them to my knowledge. That she isn't listed doesn't strike me as odd.
Guest openureyes Posted March 16, 2012 Posted March 16, 2012 Can some one please tell me when Erickson is planning on putting this all out there for the public to see?
Guest Posted March 16, 2012 Posted March 16, 2012 Yes, Ask Adrian and if you can pull Excalibur from the rock then you will be proven worthy of receiving special knowledge. Other than that the line starts at the back.
Guest Peter O. Posted March 16, 2012 Posted March 16, 2012 The disease is not localized. Quite to the contrary. Taking "the thing" out would actually make matters worse. A prostatectomy only works for localized disease with a Gleason Score less than 7 or so. Mine was 9 way back in 2003. Please note the efficacy of a vegan diet in helping with prostate cancer/disease: search on nutritionfacts.org or drmcdougall.com. Seriously. This is not something that should be laid to rest in the hands of physicians exclusively. OK now I am really confused. I was under the impression that the Matilda footage was recorded by Pfohl/Hadj-Chikh of the EP as was other purported impressive footage including that of a huge male. Was all this material recorded by the homeowners and purchased by Erickson ? If Erickson stands by the footage that Bill has scrutinized that would explain the interest in the Standing footage as well. Seems like things maybe going south in a hurry if this is true. Bill can you comment on any of the above ? Thanks Stinky Yeah agreed. Thanks for the reply. Some of the ambiguity about the PGF rests in the fact that there is footage of higher quality than we have now, but we don't have access to it, and I think that may change the game if it can be studied. Also, I think there is footage we haven't seen which does exist, and if found and studied, will clear up a lot of issues and strengthen a conclusion. Really? What footage? I would love to see good footage if it's available. If I were sitting on such footage, I would make it available for all to see. Copyright does not conflict with making the footage available for all to see. These sorts of problems just make me more pessimistic than ever of having anything definitive to see. I intend to hike either the Hoosier National Forest or Wayne National Forest this year, and if I come up with anything squatch-related I intend to share it with the largest audience possible, on the grounds that a hominid species in our midst belongs to all of us, not just a select few. Surely, that would not detract from "my" discovery.. Too bad, Peter O.
bipedalist Posted June 8, 2012 BFF Patron Posted June 8, 2012 http://squatchwatch.weebly.com/the-erickson-project.html Interesting blog capsule of the project...
Guest billgreen2010 Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 hey everyone IM BACK still sore healing but WOW.... this ongoing situation is still getting heated etc keep me updated please & KEEP ON SQUATCHING etc 1
Guest TexasTracker Posted June 16, 2012 Posted June 16, 2012 I don't intend to try and start another mile-long thread here. I'm just looking for an update on where AE is on his video???? Last I heard a few months back is that he was receiving editing help in California. Does anyone have any newer/reliable info?? This may be covered in the depths of another thread. If it is, I'm sorry.. TT
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