The Next Chapter In The Tent Peeker

[Guest]

Or maybe having seen it up close, he is now having some issues with humanity?

I know I would not have shot that,who would?

Edited October 6, 2012 by JohnC

[Guest BFSleuth]

Sooo..... in order to prepare the world for an upcoming bigfoot documentary and major announcement that confirmation of bigfoot is finally at hand, Dyer decided to promote the effort by posting a web site stocked with ButchyKid level hoax videos and a video of a bigfoot shooting video game?

Really?

Is there anyone that documented the original web site or what is the best way to go back to find the original web site for shootingsasquatch.com .... it was so very bad that it needs to be preserved as a new standard for "gotcha" hoaxing (or maybe the second best standard).

[Guest]

BFSleuth,

That is the sad thing. Unless one of us took pictures or saved the videos it is gone. The foolish will continue to believe in this video it seems. We have destroyed its credibility. It is just entertainment now.

This video was made to make money. Look at the logistics going into place. He. I dare say used the BFF & FB/FB to see if ANYONE was buying his video. Some took the die hard stance that maybe he was NOT hoaxing. That coupled with people really wanting a video to be real, makes them willing to buy in on this one. Now Rick Dyer is going to make serious money. He has been exposed and yet...? The reverse engineered logic used to try and find a way to make this video legit is sad. Sad and pathetic.

The anger I feel is growing.

Edited October 6, 2012 by Woodswalker

[Guest BFSleuth]

I agree completely with your anger. However, I don't label those who see potential BF in the video as "pathetic" per se. The issue is that many people want to look at evidence "as is" without provenance. In my opinion that is largely a mistake. FB/FB takes this tack when they work with video evidence, and it has backfired on them several times now to the point that their credibility has taken a tremendous hit.

The point is that there are people that have direct observations of BF that have viewed this video and indicated that it looks very real. What this says to me is that hoaxers, mask makers, and suit makers are improving their game. Feedback from witnesses is helping their efforts. Therefore we need to be more diligent in our review of evidence.

As for Mr. Dyer, he has damaged his reputation beyond repair. I would be extremely surprised if any network anywhere in the world would be interested in funding or broadcasting a documentary he has any involvement in, unless it is a documentary exposing the twisted mind of a hoaxer.

[Guest VioletX]

Or maybe having seen it up close, he is now having some issues with humanity?

I know I would not have shot that,who would?

I was wondering the same, maybe the title is ironic, that his mission was to shoot Sasquatch with a gun and he ended up shooting him with a camera. We can hope...

If it not a hoax...

No one listened to last nights BTR show?

I agree completely with your anger. However, I don't label those who see potential BF in the video as "pathetic" per se. The issue is that many people want to look at evidence "as is" without provenance. In my opinion that is largely a mistake. FB/FB takes this tack when they work with video evidence, and it has backfired on them several times now to the point that their credibility has taken a tremendous hit.

The point is that there are people that have direct observations of BF that have viewed this video and indicated that it looks very real. What this says to me is that hoaxers, mask makers, and suit makers are improving their game. Feedback from witnesses is helping their efforts. Therefore we need to be more diligent in our review of evidence.

As for Mr. Dyer, he has damaged his reputation beyond repair. I would be extremely surprised if any network anywhere in the world would be interested in funding or broadcasting a documentary he has any involvement in, unless it is a documentary exposing the twisted mind of a hoaxer.

Apparently RD made a good deal of money after the hoax when people wanted to film him re: the hoax, and that lead to filming him in the field and that led to other projects...so he said last night.

http://www.blogtalkr...ant-you-to-know

I tried to listen again, but too much going for such "indulgences".

Edited October 6, 2012 by VioletX

[Guest]

For all those calling Dyer a police officer, it was Whitton who was on the police force at the time of the Ga hoax. Dyer was listed as a former corrections officer - and I think there was some question about that also. Not that it matters much.

[Guest BFSleuth]

Thank you for the clarification on that point.

Apparently RD made a good deal of money after the hoax when people wanted to film him re: the hoax, and that lead to filming him in the field and that led to other projects...so he said last night.

http://www.blogtalkr...ant-you-to-know

RD notes in the interview that in 2008 he filed taxes for $280,000 for the Georgia hoax. Last year he said he reported $250,000. Now he's claiming this new video is legitimate, with February being the big "release"... documentary film crew that is "super credible" was with him, etc. etc.

Anyone want to take bets that RD hoaxed the documentary crew?

[Guest VioletX]

Thank you for the clarification on that point.

RD notes in the interview that in 2008 he filed taxes for $280,000 for the Georgia hoax. Last year he said he reported $250,000. Now he's claiming this new video is legitimate, with February being the big "release"... documentary film crew that is "super credible" was with him, etc. etc.

Anyone want to take bets that RD hoaxed the documentary crew?

Yeh, But don't you think the crew would be able to be experienced enough to recognize costumed Big foots? They would have to be in cahoots with RD.

He does sound credible about most things, on the show, but he may be a very talented liar.

[Guest BFSleuth]

Do I think a film crew from the UK would be experienced enough to recognize BF costumes? It would depend on what experience they bring to the table and the circumstances of the filmed event. It would not be surprising to find out that RD set them up to think they were in a BF hot spot, then had an actor in a state of the art suit appear at a moment that would take them off guard.

Note in the interview that RD says he was filmed punching one of the crew members that was "trying to grab something". What could he have possibly been grabbing that RD didn't want to be grabbed?

Could it beeee....... a rifle?

Headline:

BF HOAXER SHOT BY FILM CREW

[Guest VioletX]

When I can finish listening I will check that out BFS, I did not hear that part...that sounds very peculiar , out of context.

You think the crew member was going to shoot the fake Bigfoot?

[Guest mdhunter]

I think it's fairly apparent RD is talented at intentional deception. Look how far he took the Georgia hoax. The gullible will believe his apologies and stack his bank account. Just my opinion. And I am experiencing some of the anger stated above also.

As a side, look how many shows claim "realistic costumes" that are laughable. Not that hard to get a film crew on board in a money making business venture. Horay for me, screw you attitude so prevalent these days.

ETE: Good speculation on the "grabbing" BFS.

Edited October 6, 2012 by mdhunter

[Guest BFSleuth]

When I can finish listening I will check that out BFS, I did not hear that part...that sounds very peculiar , out of context.

You think the crew member was going to shoot the fake Bigfoot?

That part jumped right out for me.

Together with the tantalizing "tease" video with the glimpse of a rifle laying on the tent floor and his statement that his overall emotion at the time was "fear" then noting he is filmed punching a camera crew member to prevent him from "grabbing something"... it all makes sense. Now he can claim that when faced with the "reality" of BF right in front of him he suddenly decided they were so human that he couldn't possibly kill one and he had to punch a crew member to prevent this tragedy from happening.

Rick Dyer - Protector of Bigfoot

.... or at least protector of his buddy in the suit.

Edited to Add: In many hoaxes like this in the bigfoot community it seems that the hoaxer is motivated to "take down" a public figure in the bigfoot research community. In this case RD has set up a "take down" of FB/FB. Notice how quickly the original web site disappeared once that became linked to the FB/FB video analysis? He couldn't help himself posting that web site as a joke, but suddenly realized he was jeopardizing his $$$ deal with the documentary and had to take it down in a hurry.

Why is it that hoaxers just can't help themselves and leave such glaring red flags?

Edited October 6, 2012 by BFSleuth

[spacemonkeymafia]

How does Rick Dyer have all this money? Is he being funded by Biscardi? Where does Biscardi get his money?

I'm scraping by being an honest hard worker and these guys seem to have money to burn.

Hope there's some Karma down the road.

[Guest VioletX]

That part jumped right out for me.

Together with the tantalizing "tease" video with the glimpse of a rifle laying on the tent floor and his statement that his overall emotion at the time was "fear" then noting he is filmed punching a camera crew member to prevent him from "grabbing something"... it all makes sense. Now he can claim that when faced with the "reality" of BF right in front of him he suddenly decided they were so human that he couldn't possibly kill one and he had to punch a crew member to prevent this tragedy from happening.

Rick Dyer - Protector of Bigfoot

.... or at least protector of his buddy in the suit.

Edited to Add: In many hoaxes like this in the bigfoot community it seems that the hoaxer is motivated to "take down" a public figure in the bigfoot research community. In this case RD has set up a "take down" of FB/FB. Notice how quickly the original web site disappeared once that became linked to the FB/FB video analysis? He couldn't help himself posting that web site as a joke, but suddenly realized he was jeopardizing his $$$ deal with the documentary and had to take it down in a hurry.

Why is it that hoaxers just can't help themselves and leave such glaring red flags?

I was told that the associated websites etc came up because of his name selection, and that that was the reason for getting rid of the site, when he realized the connotation.

He is saying that he is no kill now, like you said...so we will see if this ends up like Alien Autopsy or something.

You could argue that the shot of his gun is contrived, you could also argue that looking for your protection in a fearful situation would make sense too.

Edited October 6, 2012 by VioletX

[Guest Nalajr]

Looks interesting to me.

I'm wondering why he didn't pick up that rifle on the tent floor and end this mystery once and for all.

If I had a Sassy outside my tent checking me out and I had a firearm at arms length, I am pretty sure I'd try and kill it. Of course you never know what you'd ACTUALLY do until you're in this situation.

One thing I did pick up on was that this Sassy looks mean. He doesn't look like the kind of Sassy I'd want to approach and try to "communicate" with if ya know what I mean. You all have to admit that this SASSY is one mean lookin' fella.

Nalajr