SWWASAS Posted March 16, 2015 BFF Patron Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) " The test results that do not fit the debunk agenda are simply not reported or interpreted as contaminated." Thats why there should be a log of who handles the DNA and have their DNA on file. This way it can not be said to the said quote above. If the DNA comes back as contaminated as human it can be match to who ever handled it. If the DNA comes that of human we would be a lot closer to the truth. Most of the stuff sent in has no chain of custody. So no wonder Sykes assumes contamination. I have seen videos of noted people in the BF world taking DNA samples, and their technique in taking the sample would introduce contamination. One I saw blowing on a metal bowl to see if there were any fingerprints, then bagging the bowl for DNA analysis. (Dr Johnson) That kind of stuff just middies the waters of DNA testing and gives skeptics more and more examples of tests that did not show anything. If you see a BF walk across a trail in front of you, then examine the path the BF took, and find a tuft of hair hanging on a briar, how can you be reasonably sure it was left by the BF? Odds are that it was not. It could have been hanging there for years and been left by a passing bear. Edited March 16, 2015 by SWWASASQUATCHPROJECT
Drew Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Nathan, Have you confirmed how the group will support you in the field? Who is funding food supplies, medicine, support? Do you have any confirmation of the funds being available to support you folks out in the field for 6 months? Nathan- In addition to the above, have you been told ISU is going to be funding this excursion? Who told you that? Do you have an email or anything saying that ISU is funding this? Please look back in your notes and see if they are telling you that ISU is funding the ground operation.
NathanFooter Posted April 6, 2015 Posted April 6, 2015 Nathan- In addition to the above, have you been told ISU is going to be funding this excursion? Who told you that? Do you have an email or anything saying that ISU is funding this? Please look back in your notes and see if they are telling you that ISU is funding the ground operation. ISU is holding our funds and pledged contributions, I currently understand ISU is not funding the project directly but is rather acting as the place of deposit for project related funds and such before hand to ensure that the effort is legit. I am told that being under ISU is also our waypoint to being listed under a scientific research catagory, this has also opened doors for other prospects and benefits for the project. The funds for our food and any medical costs is in the can, currently we are awaiting other details to fall into place. The majority of the funding information beyond the above is not known to me as much of contributions are private in nature and handled by those higher up in the project.
Lake County Bigfooot Posted April 6, 2015 Posted April 6, 2015 The one question I still have is what ever happened with the other crafts that were donated to the project in Aug. 2014, they were estimated at over $200,000 in value. Are these being held by the University, or have they been sold? What is the disposition of those donations. William is very forth right about the project details, but the funding he has held close to the vest for some obvious reasons. I really hope we get a serious donor to fund the building of the craft, that would be a real shot in the arm for the project. I trust Nathan and team will gather some pretty good stuff out there, and having the craft would be a huge asset. Time will tell, and I hope they are able to publish some documentary material to help fund the project as they gather footage. Just showing the daily grind of the ground team would be a very interesting show, if done right. Nat Geo should be all over that, and William has stated their interest. I know that this thing will gain momentum as the ground team is out there and I am sure the press will be catching on to the potential interest the project garners.
scottv Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Hello Nathanfooter, I'm interested in the survey design. When you are walking in the chosen areas will you be doing specific transects or some other type of predetermined route or are the areas sampled small enough to get complete coverage (a quadrat)? And you will record any animal sign, regardless of species, (tracks, scat, hair etc) on your line? Does the line have a fixed width? My personal feeling is the the balloon thing is more publicity stunt than anything else and the money would be better spent on data collectors on the ground (people and trail cameras). Wish you the best of luck.
Drew Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) ISU is holding our funds and pledged contributions, I currently understand ISU is not funding the project directly but is rather acting as the place of deposit for project related funds and such before hand to ensure that the effort is legit. I am told that being under ISU is also our waypoint to being listed under a scientific research catagory, this has also opened doors for other prospects and benefits for the project. The funds for our food and any medical costs is in the can, currently we are awaiting other details to fall into place. The majority of the funding information beyond the above is not known to me as much of contributions are private in nature and handled by those higher up in the project. Thanks for the info Nathan. Is the project funding your travel to the location? Is it starting in Pocatello? Mt. Rainier? where is the starting point of the ground survey? Are you flying or driving? Has Mr. Barnes offered to show you evidence that your permits have been obtained? (legally, it is upon you to verify that you have the proper permits, if someone tells you they have the permits, and they really don't, then you would be legally responsible as the person on the ground without the permit.) Is anyone from ISU going to be attached to the ground team? Edited April 8, 2015 by Drew
gigantor Posted April 8, 2015 Admin Posted April 8, 2015 Is the project funding your travel to the location? Is it starting in Pocatello? Mt. Rainier? where is the starting point of the ground survey? Are you flying or driving? Don't tell him Nate, he just wants the info public so hoaxers can meet you guys onsite j/k 1
Drew Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 Yeah, I don't really care about that, I am more concerned about the permit issue. I don't want a fellow Michigan man getting tagged with some crime like Carrying a Gun without a proper park permit or something like that. Even though the 'higher-ups' told him he was good to go.
SWWASAS Posted April 9, 2015 BFF Patron Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) I doubt that they will be in any sort of federal park that would have issues with firearms. The permit requirements in a National Park or Monuments would be prohibitive for pretty much everything. Additionally National Parks and Monuments have aviation restrictions that would be prohibitive for the airship operation. Other than that most Western States (not sure about California) allow open carry in rural areas. In todays political climate anyone that carries a weapon better check local laws themselves. They can keep their ground operations secret but as soon as they launch that airship, the aviation world will know exactly where it is. They will be required to post a Notice to Airman. Edited April 9, 2015 by SWWASASQUATCHPROJECT
Guest OntarioSquatch Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) William Allen Barns is in for a disappointment. I recently read that he's trying to prove that this animal exists and the way he's trying to do it is through thermal imagery taken from the sky. Apparently he doesn't know that thermal videos can very easily be faked in a realistic manner using modern computer software in this day and age. Basically, it won't convince anyone who isn't already convinced. The only way this animal can be proven is through the collection of a specimen. Edited April 23, 2015 by OntarioSquatch
Guest Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 It sounds like the blimp isn't even built yet. They are going ground pounding, sounds like a goofy joke pretty much, gonna surrounds thems stupid BF folks, and outwits em goooood. Yosemite Sam woulds be prounds. But, I've been told there is ''more to the story''. From the Twitt feed, not sure the genius of this operation is apparent.
SWWASAS Posted April 23, 2015 BFF Patron Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) Well organized ground pounding has the chance to get a body and prove something. Video or pictures never will. Problem is you have to get leaders that know what they are doing with that kind of thing. Since they did not seem to draw in any aviation expertise, before trying to go blimp, I doubt they will draw in people with the leadership skills for ground operations either. They need some special forces types with experience in the field with search and destroy tactics. Bigfooters are a reclusive, squabbling, and back biting bunch, and not a good group of people in general to find what they need as far as leadership skills. They will have no problem getting people who are BF researchers but I think a fresh approach with different leadership is likely to produce more results. Less than 1% on the population has even been in the military. Edited April 23, 2015 by SWWASASQUATCHPROJECT
norseman Posted April 23, 2015 Admin Posted April 23, 2015 Yeah, I don't really care about that, I am more concerned about the permit issue. I don't want a fellow Michigan man getting tagged with some crime like Carrying a Gun without a proper park permit or something like that. Even though the 'higher-ups' told him he was good to go. Park permit????
Guest Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 If you carry a gun for self-defence, you should always have gun insurance, in case you have to shoot a human. They may want to prosecute you, and its like, $250,000 to lawyer up for those occasions. Gun insurance, NRA has it, is like $250 a year.
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