Guest WesT Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Thanks for the additional pictures! I totally missed the big X made out of those extremely long, skinny trees in the first two pics! It seems to me like the X formations are a classic BF signs. Yeah I did'nt even notice the x until I looked at the picture the next day. Interesting. There are other structures and anomolies in the area including x's , terracing, trail manipulation, teepees, tree bows, screens, piles of deadfall brush all the same size and dimension etc. We call it "the squatch garden". It was great because I had unlimited access to this site and was able to look it over and study it at lenght. I am really amazed at how long that tree is in the second pic, going diagonally across the frame. (PS: I hope you know I was joking when I asked if the hill was windy... Just poking fun at the whole "it must be caused by the weather" thing). That long tree in the second pic was still alive when the structure was assembled. It's an offshoot from the base of the larger tree behind it. That offshoot is dead now from the weight and stress of the logs piled onto it. The weather, yes, you were just being sassy, and that's a good thing! ETA: WesT, no I haven't returned to the area because it's 3.5 hours away from me, and I need to go with someone big enough to hide behind next time! I tried to go back the next day, in the morning, but I just couldn't bring myself to go into the woods alone. Well don't go it alone unless you're packin heat. Maybe there's a reaearch group near you that could go out there with you to look the area over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted October 25, 2012 SSR Team Share Posted October 25, 2012 Why? It's not rocket scientist. If ever you become fully aware of the animal's existence you start to then move on and think about it's behaviour and what it it might do with regards to it, well that's what i've progressed to do anyway over the years. Stick structures, for whatever reason, are a possibility of Sasquatch behaviour in my opinion. I don't just think they wander about the Forest doing nothing, i'm pretty sure they do things to communicate with each other that we would struggle to understand and the majority of us would just walk straight past, IE Stick structures. It all comes down to them being ahead of us mentally in their domain, a Forest. & they are ahead of us mentally there, undoubtedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) Bigfoot... maid of the woods.. Cleaning up all that storm debris. Sorry, not a fan of stick structures. I think someone else said something/made a very valid point. You hike for miles into the woods and find something like this, fine I'll start to apply possible alternate theories as to how they got there. But when you find a stick structure anywhere in a park or forest area frequented by people ? Then your first thought shouldn't be "did Bigfoot do this?" Boy i hope no Bigfoot researchers wander through my family land where I grew up. Been cutting down trees for firewood for years, and as my step-dad would be busy sawing up the logs, I'd be dragging all the tops and small branches and putting them in piles, to get them out of the way. Someone might walk through those woods now, and think it must be absolutely infested with Bigfoots.... Edited October 25, 2012 by Art1972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted October 25, 2012 SSR Team Share Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) Quick question, would anybody that has actually seen a Sasquatch actually completely rule out stick structures as a possible communication tool for these animals and if so, why ? If you have seen one, please respond with " I've seen one, yes i'd rule them out because..........no i wouldn't rule them out " Big thanks. Edited October 25, 2012 by BobbyO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toejam Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 It's not rocket scientist. If ever you become fully aware of the animal's existence you start to then move on and think about it's behaviour and what it it might do with regards to it, well that's what i've progressed to do anyway over the years. Stick structures, for whatever reason, are a possibility of Sasquatch behaviour in my opinion. I don't just think they wander about the Forest doing nothing, i'm pretty sure they do things to communicate with each other that we would struggle to understand and the majority of us would just walk straight past, IE Stick structures. It all comes down to them being ahead of us mentally in their domain, a Forest. & they are ahead of us mentally there, undoubtedly. I agree with you BobbyO. Here's a couple recently found in the general area where I'm now investigating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JenJen of Oldstones Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Sorry, not a fan of stick structures. I think someone else said something/made a very valid point. You hike for miles into the woods and find something like this, fine I'll start to apply possible alternate theories as to how they got there. But when you find a stick structure anywhere in a park or forest area frequented by people ? Then your first thought shouldn't be "did Bigfoot do this?" Art - I knew it was a stretch, but I wanted to put my pictures out there anyway, just in case. I'd read some threads here about Bigfoots being spotted in urban or suburban areas, so... *shrug* I just posted the pictures and asked people what they thought. People have been very nice to take the time to offer their opinions, talk about their experiences, share pictures, etc., without making fun of me. Which I'm grateful for. I'm really enjoying the discussion! BobbyO - Thanks for furthering the discussion. That's a really good question. Toejam - Nice pictures! Do you have any more shots of the first pic, from different angles? It looks to me like there are two or three bowed trees arching over the sticks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cervelo Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 It's not rocket scientist. If ever you become fully aware of the animal's existence you start to then move on and think about it's behaviour and what it it might do with regards to it, well that's what i've progressed to do anyway over the years. Stick structures, for whatever reason, are a possibility of Sasquatch behaviour in my opinion. I don't just think they wander about the Forest doing nothing, i'm pretty sure they do things to communicate with each other that we would struggle to understand and the majority of us would just walk straight past, IE Stick structures. It all comes down to them being ahead of us mentally in their domain, a Forest. & they are ahead of us mentally there, undoubtedly. Unless I see one making the structure, no go for me! I've always had an issue with that suggestion, if biggies out there he has one thing he would be doing and most likey constantly....eat. I see them having very little need to leave signs or play bigfoot buddy's with us. I'm tryin hard BobbyO and would love to see one, but everything I've seen so far.... man made or natural occurrence. A mountain lion has got me beat a million to one in the natural world, for that matter a worm does! But neither (hopefully) will be driving a car next to me on a highway LOL. And before you guys go all gaga about humans being or not being superior, I get it we are the only animal that can't live in a natural state on this planet (for the most part) but I'm sure there's a thread on that subject somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toejam Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Art - I knew it was a stretch, but I wanted to put my pictures out there anyway, just in case. I'd read some threads here about Bigfoots being spotted in urban or suburban areas, so... *shrug* I just posted the pictures and asked people what they thought. People have been very nice to take the time to offer their opinions, talk about their experiences, share pictures, etc., without making fun of me. Which I'm grateful for. I'm really enjoying the discussion! BobbyO - Thanks for furthering the discussion. That's a really good question. Toejam - Nice pictures! Do you have any more shots of the first pic, from different angles? It looks to me like there are two or three bowed trees arching over the sticks? The area has many bowed trees but for the most part they look as though they're all pointing the same way. When I see that I tend to brush it off as natural. The structure though is not natural and the first one has a handful of trees all meeting at a point up at the top. Again not natural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peter Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) Quick question, would anybody that has actually seen a Sasquatch actually completely rule out stick structures as a possible communication tool for these animals and if so, why ? A sign post in the woods? sure it possible but do really think they're talking as much as this craze seems to indicate? One could argue that until the code book is published, document everything.But I can't help but feel that if stick structures gain blanket acceptance that any real evidence will be diluted because some people will defend their evidence even if it's falty, if for no other reason than to be a part of something bigger. . Edited October 25, 2012 by peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WesT Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 toejam, that first pic rings a bell with me! What I'd give to be there and study that and compare notes. When it comes to being savvy in the forest we humans are slow witted and dumb as a sack of hammers. Most folks don't know what to look for when looking for signs of big daddy, much less know what it is they are looking at when they see it. I recently followed what I believe are the signs in an area of activity and they led me to what I call "the barrier". The barrier was very thick with undergrowth and fallen trees and seemingly inpenetrable. I just stood there and thought "what the hell, it's a dead end". So I did my signal to see if anything was around and got a response. Still I just stood there, like the slow witted in the forest human I am, wondering which way to go next. It took my brain about 2 days to figure out that I may not have hit a dead end afterall and that I may of found a natural structure the creature uses for shelter. It makes sense now. If I were a wild creature of that size, the barrier would make be a perfect place to seek shelter. We plan on going back out there after hunting season is over to explore it. I'm attempting to get proof of the creature for a friend whom wants vindication. A tall order I know, but I promised him I would try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JenJen of Oldstones Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 You're brave. What was your friend's experience? And why won't s/he go with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salubrious Posted October 25, 2012 Moderator Share Posted October 25, 2012 If you have seen one, please respond with " I've seen one, yes i'd rule them out because..........no i wouldn't rule them out " I don't rule it out. The structure we found where we are having occurrences nearby has oak limbs in it that are 5" dia. and 10 feet long. There is no oak nearby. The branches were torn off of the tree. The BF I saw (in Colorado, years ago) was 10 feet tall and had arms far more powerful than my legs. It does not take much in the way of imagination to think that it could do something like that. But I remain suspicious, and try to exhaust all other explanations first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted October 25, 2012 SSR Team Share Posted October 25, 2012 Unless I see one making the structure, no go for me! I've always had an issue with that suggestion, if biggies out there he has one thing he would be doing and most likey constantly....eat. I see them having very little need to leave signs or play bigfoot buddy's with us. I'm tryin hard BobbyO and would love to see one, but everything I've seen so far.... man made or natural occurrence. Cool, but you'd agree with me that they'd have to communicate C as well as eat wouldn't you ? If so, how would you think they do that without communicating through sound ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMBigfoot Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I think the BF do some tree twists, push over trees, uproot trees, and X formations. As for structures I have only seen a few. I filmed a domed shaped structure made with vine maple trees and the limbs were braided together. It was located about 50 yards from a meadow/marshy area and river. There was no firepit, garbage, or white flags around that a person usually leaves behind. But I still think a person/s built it. IMO the BF don't build structures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cervelo Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 While I think it would be really cool to imagine Bigfoot weaving intricate messages thru placement of sticks and twigs that only they can interpret....vegetation hieroglyphs hard to believe. If they are capable of such comprehension I would think something else would have developed as a method of communication that wouldn't be so obvious. I also would assume just as most other animals in the world a tremendous amount of information is exchanged without verbalizing. Structures kinda like looking at clouds see what you want for the most part, whatever it means to you is cool with me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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