Guest blackbriar Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 I was telling a friend about the latest Bigfoot body hoo ha and he gave the usual look of derision for a non interested individual but said "Has anyone proven the existence of Rick Dyer?" Strange that even the people of here are thinking similar things about Musky recently Either way, I just want to know now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dopelyrics Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) JackiLB - it's only expensive if you believe that lawyers are involved, that Musky Allen is on the payroll, that there really were these people on the expedition in San Antonio, that there is a fake body etc'. Otherwise, if it's just the word of two people (Rick and Musky, which it is), then it's cheap as chips, relatively speaking. I mean, you talk about the people here who don't believe a serial hoaxer and arch-skoftic in terms of being "silly" and bandy the word "fantasy" about. I'm sure the irony is not lost on you. You are absolutely correct when you say that very few people in the world are interested in Bigfoot. That is spot on. But that could be changed in an instant - in the day and age of the internet it would be world-wide news in 10 minutes. But no, we wait 6 months until after the Bigfoot is shot before the documentary is released at a relatively small film festival - not to a bunch of Bigfoot enthusiasts, but a handful of film critics. I'm sure they'll take great delight in writing about the mid-tarsal break of an 8 foot tall near human when their articles are published in Variety or Empire magazine. Minnow could license any film they had for millions - to all the major news corporations across the world. It would be the most watched piece of footage ever. What was that you were saying about fantasy? Lee Cipher - I made similar points as you - you got there first buddy! Edited February 8, 2013 by dopelyrics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Lets seeRD shoots 500+ pound sasquatch with camera crew need to rent big truck refrigerated needs help lots of it to get animal loaded arrives LV needs plenty of help to get killed BF off truck to storage area already quite a few people needed and what 5 months later he leaks out he has killed a BF and not one word leaked out about it from anyone else but RD. NO way! its a hoax simple move on! Lots of NDAs, Adam. Lots of NDAs. He also claims 3 university people examined the body at some point. No proof of course. What university, where, when, and whether they were faculty, students or maintenance staff, no one knows. How ridiculous is this story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelefoot Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) I know I read just a few pages back where someone DID contact Meldrum and he responded by saying that no one has contacted him about viewing the body. He went on to say, Get on with it! (Don't have time to go back thru to find it, but it was just 3-4 pages back.) Edit to fix typo. Edited February 8, 2013 by chelefoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 JackiLB, I again have to firmly but respectfully disagree with you. IF Rick Dyer and Musky Allen are lying and this is indeed a hoax, there need not be ANY expense or complexity. Do me a favour - take yourself down to your local corner store and buy yourself a calculator...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 This just in from RD'S FB blog page: Bigfoot: The Evidence In response to the many claims of being involved in a hoax, the gunshot wounds, why he was involved and not an expert scientist etc, Musky Allen has written the following statement: ""Sorry i've been away from my computer. After reading many comments all over the web, i feel it necessary to clear up a few things. My interview everyone listened too was limited due to time constraints and restrictions i was permitted to speak about . There was an autopsy, yes. The 3 shaven areas was where the incisions where made. The body cavity including organs has been removed and preserved. A partial embalming was performed on the specimen (i dont know details on this however). I have no idea if this creature is or has been frozen pryor to our arrival. On the reported gun shot wounds, there was an exit wound (this area was edited out from my original interview) however i couldn't verify collateral damage to the mouth area other than cut's and some possible torn skin in and around the mouth region, otherwise intact. I didnt think this was significant considering the mouth was shut, it may have had it's teeth missing, i have no idea. I'd also like to mention about people's comments on why my word isnt important like 'Jeff Meldrums' would be, and that i was paid to lie!! Fact is, I exhausted myself to try and arrange Jeff Meldrum to accompany me with repeated emails...Instead his ego and greed was more important requesting his 'Standard' appearance fee (in the tune of $5,500 even though there was to be no filming) paid accommodations, and full travel expenses paid was the response. Based on that, Meldrums scientific approach was about 'Getting paid' to use his name, NOT to validate any discovery which i tried to do!! Lastly, I'll say this again. I 100% stand behind what i saw, this was a Sasquatch!"" This is what Musky is - brutally honest. His words always make an impact. So, does this clear somethings up? We predict not, but it is a start, haha. Like · "My interview everyone listened too was limited due to time constraints and restrictions i was permitted to speak about" That's a convenient answer. Re Dr. Meldrum, upthread someone posted his response to a question and he said he was not contacted by Dyer. So let's say Musky did contacted. AS IF he would go anywhere with these two guys!! Did they show him any proof? They could have sent him a video, or some hair, or a chunk of something he could test. I bet he would have gone for free if he had reason to believe there was a real BF there. Do me a favour - take yourself down to your local corner store and buy yourself a calculator...... Jacki, if there was no shooting, no dead BF, no refrigerated truck, no lawyers, no NDAs, no facility in Las Vegas, no fake BF body, NOTHING ... there would be no expense to perpetrating this hoax!!! It's all just words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) JackiLB - it's only expensive if you believe that lawyers are involved, that Musky Allen is on the payroll, that there really were these people on the expedition in San Antonio, that there is a fake body etc'. okay okay..put it like this. If no bigfoot showed up during that week in San Antonio and no BF was shot and RD is making the whole darn story up, yeah, WHY WHY WHY arent all the people who were ALSO there in San Antonio during that expedition (we are talking about the expedition members and the Minnow Film Crew), why have NONE of them come forward and say 'this is rubbish'?.....Oh yes course! Rick Dyer is paying all of them to keep their mouths shut and Minnow is sitting there enjoying him inventing up a story to an an audience who dont even know of his existence. You know earlier this week when we were all there waiting for Musky to give his statement, I glanced down at the viewing numbers here to see how many people were waiting. It said about 60-70! Wow! Minnow are really getting lots of publicity for this story arent they. I mean 60 - 70 people - thats like..........the whole world!!!! LOL Edited February 8, 2013 by See-Te-Cah NC To remove content - GG1-4; 1 A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) Here is Dr. Meldrum's response doglover posted yesterday: haven't been contacted by Dyer. I have been told he doesn't particularly like me. I can't imagine why. Asking people to believe someone else who claims to have examined the body is not the way to garner any credibility, in my book. Drop the shell game and get on with for pity's sake. about an hour ago · Unlike · 8.. This is Dr. Meldrum's response to a question on his FB page about this fiasco. okay okay..put it like this. If no bigfoot showed up during that week in San Antonio and no BF was shot and RD is making the whole darn story up, yeah, WHY WHY WHY arent all the people who were ALSO there in San Antonio during that expedition (we are talking about the expedition members and the Minnow Film Crew), why have NONE of them come forward and say 'this is rubbish'? .....Oh yes course! Rick Dyer is paying all of them to keep their mouths shut and Minnow is sitting there enjoying him inventing up a story to an an audience who dont even know of his existence. You know earlier this week when we were all there waiting for Musky to give his statement, I glanced down at the viewing numbers here to see how many people were waiting. It said about 60-70! Wow! Minnow are really getting lots of publicity for this story arent they. I mean 60 - 70 people - thats like..........the whole world!!!! LOL For heavens sake give me a break. Your theories are even more ridiculous than mine now - and thats saying something because my theory is based on something that could feasibly have happened whereas yours are just totally ludicrous. It's not hard to believe none of them know or care what RD is up to! Are they all getting personal emails about what RD is up to?? No, a few people tried to contact Minnow, and again, why would they care? THAT is a whole lot more believable than the story RD has cooked up! Edited February 8, 2013 by Belmar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Here is Dr. Meldrum's response doglover posted yesterday: It's not hard to believe none of them know or care what RD is up to! Are they all getting personal emails about what RD is up to?? No, a few people tried to contact Minnow, and again, why would they care? THAT is a whole lot more believable than the story RD has cooked up! I will say that I do think there probably has been a certain amount of 'lacing' done to this story. I wonder about the cameraman being knocked over for instance but I think that they overall basics of the story ie. BF showed up and was shot, is true. I think unfortunately because Rick Dyer leaked the story back in September, and because he has to wait for the evidence to be released mainstream, he is trying desperately to keep our interests and take centre stage - and he is achieving it. I for one have been thoroughly entertained by the whole Musky build up story and statement and now waiting for the next person to authenticate it. Who is that guy giving a statement on Rick Dyers blog? I think he pretty much says the same thing? Not all details are true but the basis of the story is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmaker Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 LOL, that response from RD of Musky's statement is hilarious. All they ( or possibly just he) did was wait for the complaints and criticisms to appear and then think , oh crap we didn't think about this or that , time for retro fixing. Yeah, as if anyone is going to believe for a second that all of our concerns are not really valid but comments addressing those were some how edited out of his original interview...er, okay...sure. This is starting to go from an elaborate hoax to something a couple of bumbling high school kids could have put together. It's embarrassing for both of them. On a positive note, so much snow in Southern Ontario today that employers are telling people to stay off the roads, yay, I get to read this thread all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Musky's verification is meaningless, this is still just a story. Truthfully I am inclined to believe the Sierra story over this one, unfortunately that one can never be proven true! Smeja's story is a lot more believable than this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmaker Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 And again, I just don't understand why some people are so fixed on the idea that Minnow MUST care about what is happening. Honestly, why would they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 LOL, that response from RD of Musky's statement is hilarious. All they ( or possibly just he) did was wait for the complaints and criticisms to appear and then think , oh crap we didn't think about this or that , time for retro fixing. That is exactly what I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Do me a favour - take yourself down to your local corner store and buy yourself a calculator...... You wouldn't need more than the fingers on your hand to add this up jacki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmaker Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Actually, I won't be spending all of my snow day reading this thread...more like playing Skyrim on my xbox and reading this thread Xbox hasn't had much love lately. Well at least until the wife makes me go shovel the mountain of snow outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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