N A W A C - Field Study Discussion

[the parkie]

Well, ones infected by the cold virus for a start...

Sorry, I can't help myself!

[hiflier]

Hello the parkie,

Hey, don'e fret, I understand. Some got it some don't . Besides, You make it fun to be here.

[the parkie]

Thanks!

[Lake County Bigfooot]

No one should be allowed to attempt to collect a specimen without a very high powered large caliber rifle, Marlin 1895 (.45-70 and .450 Marlin), Henry .45-70 and Browning BLR (.300 Win. Mag. and .450 Marlin). Why would anyone think a shotgun, handgun,  or smaller caliber rifle could bring one down?  I think all you NAWAC guys better leave your pistols and shotguns home, and quit wounding poor animals because of your ineptness.  If your going to shoot at one, at least be sure you have the caliber and firepower to take it down, and maybe only individuals with proven marksmen ship ability should be allowed to carry the high caliber weapons.  I in no way endorse you shooting a specimen, but if your going to be wounding them, possibly leading to a useless loss of that animal, then at least treat the animal with enough respect to not send it off wounded to possibly die.  The fact that your organization allowed this to occur, under whatever circumstance, is an atrocity.

Edited November 21, 2013 by Lake County Bigfooot

[Guest Stan Norton]

Allowed what to occur?

[Lake County Bigfooot]

The NAWAC's website under projects Operation Endurance, and I quote from the website

"The NAWAC investigator fired upon the animal with an auto-loading shotgun in an attempt to collect a specimen. The creature ran off and no blood was found before the loss of daylight. Additional teams returned to the area in the following days to continue the search for evidence. Stones with apparent blood stains were subsequently discovered a short distance east of the original sighting location in the dry creek bed that is adjacent to the cabins. Several, but not all, of the rocks were collected. Another team was sent to collect the remaining rocks, but a hard rainfall took place on the day of their arrival, and the team was unable to locate any more of the rocks."

My point being, a shotgun, slug load or whatever, is not the proper rifle to shoot a Sasquatch if that is
your mission, I high velocity large caliber rifle, capable of accuracy from a longer distance is required.
To use less than is sufficient is subjecting these animals to possibly a slow painful death with very little or no benefit to research, and demonstrates a pure lack of respect for the animal. I do not condone shooting a specimen, but I much less condone wounding and maiming specimens.

Edited November 21, 2013 by Lake County Bigfooot

[Lake County Bigfooot]

Armasight T3X Thermal Imaging rifle scope $5999.00

a thermal imaging rifle scope, while expensive, coupled with a high powered rifle, equipped with rhino tranquilizer dart, which would require a specialist, is the most humane way to accomplish, and allows the animal to be released back into

the wild after documentation. I know that is not affordable, but the use of a thermal scope in an area of no human interference, and controlled by the research team could allow a real chance at a clean shot from a real marksman, that is

what it is going to take, not some everyday hunter packing his .30-.30, and taking a chance shot, it needs to be very precise

and humane.

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Edited November 21, 2013 by Lake County Bigfooot

[Guest Stan Norton]

I know nothing about firearms but I would not argue with your point that the firearm should be appropriate to the intended task.

[Guest DWA]

And I'm not utterly sure that the shot in the cited circumstance wasn't a bit of 'buck fever' taking hold.  I consider it regrettable too.

 

It's just like taking your Thanksgiving deer or goose.  Go for the best shot you can - which that wasn't - and hold off for anything but that.  Not that I can't empathize with the individual who took it; those would have to be considered extraordinary circumstances.

[WSA]

Lake County....not sure how familiar you are with firearms and hunting techniques, but your weapon needs to match both your quarry and the terrain. Make that also, "The hunter."  It is one thing to bemoan in the abstract the lack of a nice, clean and accurate kill shot, but quite another to consider what the conditions then existing in Area X were/are. This is extremely dense and rugged terrain. Line of sight is close range, and the weapon of choice has to match that. A single rifled round can be deflected by trees and brush and I for one would probably opt for the shotgun too as the weapon with the greatest chance of doing the job, all things considered.  (This assumes it was buckshot and not a slug, which would be another option) 

 

As well, mounting a thermal scope on a heavy caliber rifle is probably a recipe to have the instrument's innards scrambled by the recoil of the first round you fire. Tranquilizers? Please. This is not the African savannah we are talking about. How far do you reckon a darted Sasquatch could go before succumbing to that? Chances of recovering that specimen? Pretty slim, I'd say.    

[Guest DWA]

...and if it died from the dose...well, that's been averted.  By somebody who found the animal.  Good luck there.

 

I can't and won't judge hunters on every little thing.  I know the guy who took the X shot, and few I'd trust more with a gun.  Sometimes you think you got this one and you don't.  That would make you human, and hunting what they call a 'challenge,' particularly when you are shooting at something that, you know, you've been told your whole life by the whole smug society isn't real.

[Guest]

With all due respect...

 

 

Lake County, please review the content we've made public regarding weapon and ammunition selection, from the perspective of our previous experiences (and what we learned from that) and going forward. 

[Incorrigible1]

LCB, are you aware just how devastating and effective a 12ga slug is on big game? Evidently not.

[Sunflower]

Inc,

 

I know it's devastating, having seen results of a 12ga but effective only if you hope to kill it by splattering it into a million pieces.  Then you might have to defend yourself against his brother, sister, son, etc. 

 

Hope you brought enough 12ga shells..................

[Incorrigible1]

Yeah, that's the old, oft repeated story. Not a whit of proof, but if it's repeated enough, it goes down as authentic behavior.