Bigfoot Beheads People?

[Guest]

Mythos, Are these programs worth paying for? I'm trying to help myself justify paying for these programs. 

Please say they are:)

[MarkGlasgow]

I've a feeling that the answer will be in the affirmative Suzie.

Mythos why are the guys charging for shows now? I thought that the ad revenue and YT views would cover basic costs at present.

I get pretty uncomfortable when cold hard cash comes into the world of BF. Turning a profit can quickly be the main driver.

20-30k regular listeners coughing up $7 bucks a show is not to be sneezed at. I'd be looking for at least 2 decapitations and maybe a few arms pulled out their sockets for that kind of fee.

[Guest]

LoL ... There's a man with a good sense of humor.

[Guest]

What with their lackluster shows in the past few months, questionable guests/ witnesses, the obvious moneygrabbing move with the paid content, I'm fairly sure, with an additional $3.99 per minute, we'll be hearing of the elusive Mr. Black's Top Secret Bigfoot Hotline soon enough.  Get your parents permission before being swindled, I mean calling.

[Guest]

Its not $7 per show, its $7 per month IF YOU WANT, theres stil free shows and content. Ots not like theyre saying pay $7 or else. Theres extra content which can be viewed or heard for $7 a month.

[Guest ChasingRabbits]

What with their lackluster shows in the past few months, questionable guests/ witnesses, the obvious moneygrabbing move with the paid content, I'm fairly sure, with an additional $3.99 per minute, we'll be hearing of the elusive Mr. Black's Top Secret Bigfoot Hotline soon enough.  Get your parents permission before being swindled, I mean calling.

 

Just my opinion....the  Shannon segments are weak because she doesn't direct the conversation and allows the guest to ramble on.

[Guest]

I've a feeling that the answer will be in the affirmative Suzie.

Mythos why are the guys charging for shows now? I thought that the ad revenue and YT views would cover basic costs at present.

I get pretty uncomfortable when cold hard cash comes into the world of BF. Turning a profit can quickly be the main driver.

20-30k regular listeners coughing up $7 bucks a show is not to be sneezed at. I'd be looking for at least 2 decapitations and maybe a few arms pulled out their sockets for that kind of fee.

 

I suspect that I will happily live the rest of my life without listening to programs that cost that much money which equals going to the movies to see a show that cost *millions* of dollars to create.

 

Seven dollars per program? Ye Gads, that can add up quickly. I would rather purchase a yearly membership for a *reasonable* amount of money than to pay 7 dollars for each episode.

 

Do they offer yearly memberships?

 

 I'd rather watch a movie for that much money. 

[Guest]

Its not $7 per show, its $7 per month IF YOU WANT, theres stil free shows and content. Ots not like theyre saying pay $7 or else. Theres extra content which can be viewed or heard for $7 a month.

  $7dollars a month I can justify. Thank you for letting me know. I'll add my name and pay the fee to enjoy true BF stories. Thank you ItsAsquatch.

What with their lackluster shows in the past few months, questionable guests/ witnesses, the obvious moneygrabbing move with the paid content, I'm fairly sure, with an additional $3.99 per minute, we'll be hearing of the elusive Mr. Black's Top Secret Bigfoot Hotline soon enough.  Get your parents permission before being swindled, I mean calling.

I may need to rethink paying after reading your comment Jasper. I don't have parents to ask anymore, but I do try to spend hubby's hard earned money on good stuff, not junk:(

 

I thought it was $7.00 a month, is that correct?

I've a feeling that the answer will be in the affirmative Suzie.

Mythos why are the guys charging for shows now? I thought that the ad revenue and YT views would cover basic costs at present.

I get pretty uncomfortable when cold hard cash comes into the world of BF. Turning a profit can quickly be the main driver.

20-30k regular listeners coughing up $7 bucks a show is not to be sneezed at. I'd be looking for at least 2 decapitations and maybe a few arms pulled out their sockets for that kind of fee.

Well said Mark, and too true. Thankfully it seems to be 7 dollars a month, but that adds up really quickly if I forget to cancel after a month.

20-30 thousand listeners a month, yikes, those guys have more money than most people do in today's economy if everyone is paying $7 a month. Are the shows worth that much money In your opinion?

Edited January 6, 2015 by SweetSusiq

[Guest]

Mythos, Are these programs worth paying for? I'm trying to help myself justify paying for these programs. 

Please say they are:)

I really can't tell you if they are worth, but you can listen about 70 of their previous programs on Blogtalkradio.com for free and determine if you want to hear additional content. You can also pay $70 for a year, which saves you $14. I joined because I like their basic beliefs on what Big Foots are and what they are not. William Jevning is a long time researcher with multiple sightings under his belt and 3 or 4 books as well. He was friends with John Green and Rene Dehinden since back in the late 70's and learned a lot from them. For me I like the show as had some disposable income that I did not mind throwing their way.

 

I've a feeling that the answer will be in the affirmative Suzie.

Mythos why are the guys charging for shows now? I thought that the ad revenue and YT views would cover basic costs at present.

I get pretty uncomfortable when cold hard cash comes into the world of BF. Turning a profit can quickly be the main driver.

20-30k regular listeners coughing up $7 bucks a show is not to be sneezed at. I'd be looking for at least 2 decapitations and maybe a few arms pulled out their sockets for that kind of fee.

Just like someone said on another thread, they are charging because they wanted to expand the show and pay for a website, looking at the number of participants in their Members Forum, it does not look like they have 30,000 subscribers. But unlike here, everyone in that Forum gets along, not much fighting or arguing, so discussions move along nicely.  So far no Skeptics either, guess a skeptic would rather argue in a free forum, ahh...

 

IF you are a member there, say "HI" to me in the Forum, I'm a Mod there as "Steve E"

 

cheers

[Guest]

^^^

If I am member here, not there, can I still say “Hi†Steve E?  LOL …. Hello Mythos glad you’re aboard! I enjoy the radio the programs anyways. Ask Will Jvening to check out the 1965 Monroe Monster story in Michigan will ya?  

[Guest ChasingRabbits]

Mythos, I think a potential guest for their podcast would be Charlie Ritchie. He publishes the Backwoodsman Magazine and had an issue devoted to the subject last year. He's also had BF encounters while woodsrunning.

[SWWASAS]

Money has been funneling into BF research for a long time. Some of the notables are not giving their books away. Every time they speak at a conference they are selling books, footprint cast reproductions, or whatever sells, and you can be sure they are writing off the trips to conferences from their income taxes as a business expense. I know some are horrified they would soil themselves with money, but from a practical standpoint it is not all that bad. Perhaps more academics will take note, realize they are virtually unknown outside their of their scientific colleagues, write books that no one reads, and at some point realize they could change all of that by entering BF research. Suddenly they would be invited to speak at conferences, be autographing books, having their picture taken with the public, interviewed on television, and be seen on various BF documentaries. Admittedly their academic peers would look down their noses, but if BF research has any sort of monetary reward potential, it could start drawing in academics who are languishing in obscurity conducting "pure" science.

[Lake County Bigfooot]

As a current member of Sasquatch Chronicles and here, I am starting to wonder if either offer enough bang for their buck,

I have enjoyed this forum, but I could see how it will wear thin over time.  I really would be better served to save this money

for a research trip once a year, or stockpile it toward a Flir unit.  As far as Will, Wes, and Woody, I have challenged them to 

give us a little more on Mr. Black as it could easily be thought of as a ploy to legitimize the conspiracy angle they tend to hold

to.  I know they feel that Sasquatch are generally dangerous creatures, rather than generally passive creatures, the truth lies

somewhere in the middle of those extremes, and certain individuals fall in the outskirts of either spectrum, but that is to be expected.

Do they behead individuals, well at least according to Wes and his "inside"(referring to Bob Garrets camp) information, or Coonbo and his "third hand" elk hunter story, then I guess you have an argument.

Edited January 8, 2015 by Lake County Bigfooot

[Guest]

Good post LCB, I always enjoy reading and following your posts. Makes sense and well balanced. I am one those that believe they do pop heads but that’s okay if others don’t. I suppose if it is the case the headless one will never trouble themselves over that again though.

[Guest Coonbo]

Hi folks.  I've been off the forum for quite a while.  Have done a couple of more research trips since I've posted much on here, and am in early planning stages for a couple of more.  I heard about this thread and since I guess I'm the one that instigated or inspired it, I guess I should check in and give folks a chance to ask questions, throw rocks, etc.  I have NOT read this whole thread, only the first eight pages and the last two.  But, based on that small amount, I'd like to clear up a couple of things. 

 

First:  THIS IS A STORY THAT WAS RELATED TO ME, THAT I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND ONE SINGLE PIECE OF DIRECT EVIDENCE TO BACK UP.   Yes, there is a small amount of circumstantial evidence, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO CONVINCE ME THAT THIS REALLY HAPPENED.  The hunter that was allegedly beheaded and the kid guiding him were NOT friends.  It was a customer/client relationship, and as I said before on another thread, the kid did not come remotely close to meeting the standards of a real guide.  According to the kid, at the time of the initial sighting, when the hunter chambered a round and raised his rifle, he yelled at the hunter to NOT shoot, but the hunter shot anyway.  After the hunter shot the BF and it was obvious that he intended to stand there and crank off more shots, and the other BF was charging, the kid took off running for the truck.  I think he said he was already running and looked back and saw the hunter struggling with his rifle, which he had jammed up.  At some point the kid tossed HIS rifle, so the BF wouldn't see it and so he could run faster.  The charging BF had no weapon of any kind, other than his bare hands and enormous strength. 

 

The guide told me that the first physical contact with the hunter was the BF grabbing him at the juncture of lower jaw and neck and then instantly jerking straight up and back over the BF's shoulder and the head went flying through the air. He said he didn't really see the BF's other hand because he (the guide) was running but that his impression was that the BF had grabbed the hunter at the juncture of the neck and shoulder with the other hand.  By the way he worded his story, it sounded to me like the body did not fall to the ground after the head was snatched off, but was being held up by the other hand, and then one of the arms went flying a split second later.  He said that when he came back with the deputies and coroner, the body had been further dismembered.  Again, a good story, but NO direct evidence that it ever happened, in spite of what my other research buddy believed.

 

In all my years of research, and talking to folks about their BF encounters, I've heard some stories that I knew were total BS and fabrication, and I've heard others that were so "out there" that there's no way I'd believe them and I've heard some that were real "head scratchers", leaving me perplexed, but I wouldn't repeat them.  My only reasons for repeating this particular story are that the reported method used to kill the hunter perfectly matched the eyewitness descriptions in a couple of old newspaper articles and that the BF only charged after the hunter shot the other BF.  In addition, the condition of the recovered body matched that described in some other stories.

 

Now, do I think all BF are killers?  No, absolutely not.  In that respect, they are very much like us humans.  Back when we personally had to protect our loved ones, family and friends, it was an eye for an eye.  If you kill or severely injure somebody dear to me, I'm going to do my best to kill you.  You mess with my family, I'm gonna mess you up.  The great majority of them will not harm you if you don't harm them or their family. 

 

And then you have the rogues, the psychopaths, the "less than one-percenters".  They kill because they like to kill, and they think they can get away with it.  Those are the ones I worry about.  That's why, when I'm out in the boonies researching, rooting around, I try to be someone they couldn't get away with killing.  I stay alert to my surroundings (situational awareness).  I have a weapon of some kind readily and quickly available.  And I have my escape route already planned.  Plus, I often take one of my dogs with me as an early warning system.