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Assumptions made about MIB's experience are disregarding a couple of things.  1.      He stated that the  infrasound that many of you do not believe in was used the first night on him.    Perhaps it was used the second night too and that explains why he just lay there without going for the gun I know he always carries or getting out a flashlight and shining on the camp intruder.    Until you experience infrasound  you cannot understand how it makes you do illogical things including falling asleep when you should be terrified for you life.   2.  I have heard a bigfoot walking in very close proximity and there is no mistaking the bipedal nature of the footsteps even when they are in a stealth mode and trying to sneak up on you.   If you are laying on the ground you could feel it.   Also BF has a huge airway and it's breathing would be very obvious.    Our ears are directional enough to tell when something is low to the ground or 8 or 9 feet in the air.  He may not even recall hearing the breathing but it formed his impression of what was going on partially from it.  So as far as I am concerned I don't think you have to see a thing to know something large and bipedal is walking around your camp.    But of course a large shape would block out background stars and reveal a silhouette too without being able to see frontal details.     

 

MIB's experience was almost identical to the experience Les Stroud had doing his last show that aired last night.   Les heard the footsteps,  lay there listening,   had a flashlight but never thought to use it,   and something large pushed down on the top of his tent three times.      So MIB's whole experience was very similar and sounds quite authentic to me.   I am glad he shared it but he probably won't next time.    

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Regarding LCB's OP, after some contemplation would offer another possible reason for "research" apparently being stalled out in some areas.

 

From ~1992-2006 the general location known as Spencer creek in Rogers county, Oklahoma was an apparent "hotspot" for UHS/BF activity with numerous lease hunters (have personally spoken with eight of them) having visual encounters on a certain tract of land located in the area.  BTW, several gave up their lease shortly thereafter.

 

Then, a Oklahoma-based "research group" began operations in the area with said ongoing for ~28 months.

 

According to several former members (of that group) as well as some of the landowner(s) in that vicinity, gunfire at night was an occurrence that happened on multiple occasions.

 

Since then, UHS/BF related activity has been basically sporadic to nonexistent over the vast majority of said area.

 

IMO, there may be a correlation to NAWAC's current state of Area "X" as similar (shooting) incidents have apparently transpired there as well.

 

The take-away may well be that if you have a location with activity, the sure-fire way to reduce/eliminate such is blazing gunfire at the subject(s) of the endeavour.

 

FWIW.

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THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN APE WITH EYESHINE.

 

THERE ARE NO PRIMATES IN NORTH AMERICA OTHER THAN US.

 

THERE IS NO PRIMATE THAT IS HABITUALLY BIPEDAL, OTHER THAN US.

 

THERE IS NO PRIMATE THAT USES INFRASOUND TO HUNT.

 

THERE IS NO WAY A PRIMATE LIKE THIS COULD FIND ENOUGH FOOD IN NORTH AMERICA.

 

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A WARM-BLOODED FISH http://www.livescience.com/50839-first-warm-blooded-fish-found.html?adbid=10152739375231761&adbpl=fb&adbpr=30478646760&cmpid=514627_20150514_45804826&short_code=2zrxu

 

Um, nevermind.....just sayin'.

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THERE ARE NO PRIMATES IN NORTH AMERICA OTHER THAN US.

 

THERE IS NO PRIMATE THAT IS HABITUALLY BIPEDAL, OTHER THAN US.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Um, nevermind.....just sayin'.

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Because Crowlogic says so.  We keep you around for the entertainment, that we do :music:

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In case you wondering stuff/I need this stuff......

 

 

 

From Squid Surveillance to the 'Search for Sasquatch'
Aqua-Vu Micro cameras playing key role on TV's Survivorman: Bigfoot

Crosslake, MN (May 12, 2015) - Evidence. Existence. Our need to know the truth. The human desire to document the unknown has never wavered, and lately, has manifested itself in the form of very real video verification, thanks to specialized "trail cameras."

Count the Discovery's channel's Les Stroud among the inquisitive. Through vast time and travel in the bush, Stroud has experienced unexplained phenomena convincing him not only of the possible existence of Bigfoot, but of the creature's intelligence. So when Stroud set out to capture footage for his new TV series, Survivorman: Bigfoot, he knew he'd need the stealthiest surveillance cameras available.

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Having worked with Aqua-Vu Underwater Viewing Systems on numerous past projects, Doug Hajicek, wildlife researcher, television producer and Tech Director for Survivorman: Bigfoot, immediately consulted with the popular marine optics company. Ultimately, Hajicek secured and equipped eight Micro 5 underwater camera systems for filming of the new hit Discovery Channel series.

"All previous trials with traditional trail cameras have failed," noted Hajicek, President of Whitewolf Entertainment, who has produced over 200 TV features since 1987. 

"It's known that many animals in the wild possess acute hearing and vision capable of detecting or sensing light in the UV and even infrared spectrum. The Aqua-Vu Micro camhas proven ideal for capturing potential Bigfoot footage because it is so stealthy, totally silent and compact enough to allow us to conceal the acorn-sized optics within natural objects."
 

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"Host of Survivorman: Bigfoot Les Stroud places a stuffed grouse rigged with an Aqua-Vu Micro cam into strategic position."

Stroud, who has filmed wildlife and challenging outdoor environments with numerous camera brands, has been impressed by the Micro systems. "The Aqua-Vus performed incredibly well under tough weather conditions," Stroud said. "They were the perfect cameras for the task at hand, and have greatly enhanced my ability to incorporate unique and stealthy camera angles during the making of Survivorman: Bigfoot. The ability to quietly record outside, well away from a tent, and then to watch live from the inside gave me story content I couldn't have captured any other way."

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Video Trailer

 


While traditional trail cameras consist of larger boxlike units that often give off audible noises and flash with small lights, the Aqua-Vu features a tiny camera connected to a handheld monitor via 100 feet of ultrathin cable. During show filming, this configuration allowed Hajicek and Stroud to hide multiple cameras in benign objects such as stuffed grouse mounts, tiny tree knots, duck decoys and even inside artificial water lilies. In each case, the camera cable was buried while the LCD/recording unit was concealed 100 feet away, keeping any potential light or sound well away from the vicinity.

 

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Camouflage decals further conceal the small stealthy Aqua-Vu camera optics, in hopes of recording the first verifiable bigfoot footage.

"It's pretty interesting that the best stealth trail camera design on the market is actually one designed for aquatic applications," says Hajicek. "Even though it's used mostly for fishing and underwater observation, the Aqua-Vu Micro gives us the best possible chance to record footage of a live Bigfoot."

Utilizing the Aqua-Vu's motion-sensing function and built-in DVR, any movement or heat signature passing in front of the optics triggers the unit to record, automatically employing invisible IR lighting, as necessary. Hajicek also said that during TV filming, each Aqua-Vu was connected to an auxiliary 12-volt battery-in addition to the unit's built-in Lithium-ion battery-for almost unlimited runtime beyond its internal 8-hour cycle. For maximum resolution and viewability, Hajicek also extolled the Micro cameras' auto Color/B&W function for capturing clear footage in low-light conditions.
 

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Doug Hajicek, Tech Director for Survivorman: Bigfoot has hidden Aqua-Vu cameras in some surprising objects, including artificial water lilies, duck decoys and stuffed ravens, doves and other animals.

In addition to six new episodes of Survivorman: Bigfoot, Hajicek has employed Aqua-Vu cameras for numerous other TV shows and scientific studies. "Right now, we're planning to use Aqua-Vu Micros in another Bigfoot show pilot. But we've also used Aqua-Vu cams to record and document never-before-seen beaver and bear behavior in their dens, as well as eagle nests and other fascinating applications."

Perhaps most remarkable was a project in which an Aqua-Vu cam was actually "worn" by a Humboldt squid, used to attract giant squid, which often prey upon the smaller species. Hajicek captured footage of the largest live, free-swimming squid ever recorded, at over 54 feet in length. The resulting video has aired on the History Channel, providing numerous breakthroughs in squid research, as well as some of the most compelling underwater video ever seen.

"Aqua-Vu's aren't just for fishermen," says Hajicek. "Even with hundreds of trail cameras on the market, the Aqua-Vu Micro gives us the best chance to capture video of a live bigfoot.

"If he's out there, it could be just a matter of time."
 

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 About Aqua-Vu
The Original Underwater Viewing System, Aqua-Vu is manufactured by Outdoors Insight, Inc., and has led the underwater camera category in design, innovation and quality since 1997. They were also the first with on-screen displays of water temp, depth and camera direction, LCD monitor, IR and LED light systems, DVRs and now Digital Zoom. The Central Minnesota based company builds other popular outdoors products as well, such as the iBall Trailer Hitch Camera (iballhitchcam.com) and Odor Check Moisture and Odor Control System (odorcheck.com). For more information on Aqua-Vu, visitwww.aquavu.com

 

Edited by Lake County Bigfooot
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Interesting and reminds of me of "hat cam" and the starlite cams.

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Assumptions made about MIB's experience are disregarding a couple of things. 1. He stated that the infrasound that many of you do not believe in was used the first night on him. Perhaps it was used the second night too and that explains why he just lay there without going for the gun I know he always carries or getting out a flashlight and shining on the camp intruder. Until you experience infrasound you cannot understand how it makes you do illogical things including falling asleep when you should be terrified for you life. 2. I have heard a bigfoot walking in very close proximity and there is no mistaking the bipedal nature of the footsteps even when they are in a stealth mode and trying to sneak up on you. If you are laying on the ground you could feel it. Also BF has a huge airway and it's breathing would be very obvious. Our ears are directional enough to tell when something is low to the ground or 8 or 9 feet in the air. He may not even recall hearing the breathing but it formed his impression of what was going on partially from it. So as far as I am concerned I don't think you have to see a thing to know something large and bipedal is walking around your camp. But of course a large shape would block out background stars and reveal a silhouette too without being able to see frontal details.

MIB's experience was almost identical to the experience Les Stroud had doing his last show that aired last night. Les heard the footsteps, lay there listening, had a flashlight but never thought to use it, and something large pushed down on the top of his tent three times. So MIB's whole experience was very similar and sounds quite authentic to me. I am glad he shared it but he probably won't next time.

How does he know it was infrasound? Assuming Sasquatch uses infrasound? Did he see a Bigfoot? If a Tiger shoots you with infrasound do you feel like your dying? Does MIB have a medical condition that he thinks is Bigfoot infrasound? Scary stuff.

A Bear can sound bipedal when they walk slow and cautious. And their foot pads don't make a lot of noise on forest duff anyhow.

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How does he know it was infrasound? Assuming Sasquatch uses infrasound? Did he see a Bigfoot? If a Tiger shoots you with infrasound do you feel like your dying? Does MIB have a medical condition that he thinks is Bigfoot infrasound? Scary stuff.

A Bear can sound bipedal when they walk slow and cautious. And their foot pads don't make a lot of noise on forest duff anyhow.

1. I know you have never experienced infrasound, I have. Not only did I experience it I recorded it. I have digital data that shows something produced infrasound, and probably explainable better with BF than lions or tigers in the PNW.

2. What does a tiger have to do with BF even if a tiger uses infrasound?

3. I have been within 20 feet of a bear and did not hear it's footsteps at all. Even though a bear may weigh as much as a BF, it's weight is distributed on all 4 feet so that would explain the difference in footstep noise level.

4. I have been within 30 yards of a BF coming through the woods towards me and just that foot step sound was loud enough to scare the hell out of me.

5. To assume MIB has a medical condition that mirrors infrasound is a skeptic like stretch of logic. But then again like skeptics don't believe in BF you don't believe in infrasound.

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Is it just me, or did anyone else laugh out loud at Les' "grouse cam?" I mean, you've got a micro camera, that would be extremely hard to detect, so what do you do with it? You stuff it inside a honking big piece of taxidermy and prop it up in the woods??!!!  You got to just marvel at the thought process there. I thought Stroud would show more sense than that.

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^^^

 

1. His lack of experience (encounter) is telling and only highlights how skeptics operate, as well.

 

2. Same as #1

 

3. My latest up close bear encounter (07/2013) was similar.

 

4. During the initial recovery effort at the Louisiana Hunt, the one(s) coming in to aid/defend the one wounded by sniper boy made no pretense at stealth.

 

5. A FTF/visual encounter changes your perspective forever as it washes away all preconceptions of "what" you previously thought it would be like. Skeptics and virgin pilgrims flounder with trying to comprehend such an experience leaving wild speculation and/or conjecture as their usual avenue of thought process.

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^^^

 

1. His lack of experience (encounter) is telling and only highlights how skeptics operate, as well.

 

2. Same as #1

 

3. My latest up close bear encounter (07/2013) was similar.

 

4. During the initial recovery effort at the Louisiana Hunt, the one(s) coming in to aid/defend the one wounded by sniper boy made no pretense at stealth.

 

5. A FTF/visual encounter changes your perspective forever as it washes away all preconceptions of "what" you previously thought it would be like. Skeptics and virgin pilgrims flounder with trying to comprehend such an experience leaving wild speculation and/or conjecture as their usual avenue of thought process.

I am not a skeptic.  I am a non believer so there is nothing left to be skeptical about.  That said things like infrasound is on the list of special dispensation afforded to bigfoot that helps rationalize why it can't be captured or engaged in ways that would facilitate it's capture.

 

As for having an encounter that changes a person forever isn't that overkill?  The thousands of sightings from all over the country haven't created a community of changed forever people pontificating on the bigfoot podium.  

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^^^ IMO, isn't the non-believer facet a requisite for the skeptic realm?

 

Apparently, not having an encounter and the ignorance thereof predisposes some to pontificating upon their own soapbox.

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In that C.L., you'd be mistaken.  Talk to one who has had this kind of  battlefield conversion and you'll know what I mean.  Perhaps it would help them though for you to tell them/us where this "bigfoot podium" is?  The doing of a futile act is never an incentive unto itself, hmm?

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After an encounter ...

 

People want to talk about it  ...  to a receptive audience.

 

I'm sure there are a number of people who post on this forum for that reason.

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