Guest Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I have not read any criticism of Wes other than he may have fabricated his experience with BF. It's not that big a deal to me. I find it hard to believe such a web site operation would generate enough income to live off of. I could be wrong on that but the time, effort, resources that goes into putting it all together is not trivial. He seems genuine and he is a pretty skilled interviewer. Not every show is going to be spot on. I could do without the tomfoolery since the characters are not funny at all. I wish there was more fresh material but it is what it is. I have found a few gems in there but not enough to compel me to subscribe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonehead74 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I have not read any criticism of Wes other than he may have fabricated his experience with BF. It's not that big a deal to me. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted July 21, 2015 SSR Team Share Posted July 21, 2015 I have not read any criticism of Wes other than he may have fabricated his experience with BF. It's not that big a deal to me. I don't know wingman, I personally have an issue with people that blatantly lie for personal game as appears to be the case here. Call me old fashioned or what, but I have no time for people like that and would be quite vocal about that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SoFla Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I don't know wingman, I personally have an issue with people that blatantly lie for personal game as appears to be the case here. Call me old fashioned or what, but I have no time for people like that and would be quite vocal about that too. But I'm willing to bet that you have no problem whatsoever with Wes' ex-partner Wil who continually changed HIS story but Wes was too much of a gentleman to ever call him out on them-UNlike the liar Wil did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted July 21, 2015 SSR Team Share Posted July 21, 2015 You would have lost that bet actually SoFla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Hello SoFla, yeah I like SC, quite a bit, I don't think it features made up stories and I am not one of the people who think that everyone who makes money off something is therefore lying (that type of logic is actually quite comical) yes I am a subscriber there. I find there forums there (which are now back up) features much less negativity than this one, but I enjoy both! Anyone visiting the forums there, say hello to me if you like, I am one of the Mods there... Cheers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I don't know wingman, I personally have an issue with people that blatantly lie for personal game as appears to be the case here. Call me old fashioned or what, but I have no time for people like that and would be quite vocal about that too. But I'm willing to bet that you have no problem whatsoever with Wes' ex-partner Wil who continually changed HIS story but Wes was too much of a gentleman to ever call him out on them-UNlike the liar Wil did Really? The problem with even being an interested observer in BF subject matter is the time it takes to research every account, do the mental gymnastics - is it real, fake, absurd, possible, etc. It's just an intense area of interest. I did not read the discussions regarding Wes on this board prior to posting so I am not "educated" on the opinions here. I have not heard Wes address anything to do with doubts about the credibility of his story either. Why would someone start a BF podcast website where they spend hours upon hours talking to people about the subject? If it did not have a deep meaning to a person, what is driving their interest? Is everything immediately seen as a con game because it isn't perfect research? Researching is a full time job just to find people to interview, vet the stories and get the details and questions together (or did you think it was all ad lib?). I'd like to know the costs involved in the SC operation and exactly how much Wes is clearing after overhead. Most of the SC podcasts don't even require membership. What is he gaining from doing this as an apparent full time job or even as an overly indulgent hobby? I don't know him or how his story checks out (and I do not care to spend the time. I am sure it is a dead end). My research points to a specific personality type who gets into the BF biz: 1. outright hoaxer or just can't be trusted. Their goal is money or notoriety (Standing, Dyer, Freeman, Ivan Marx types) 2. Ne'er do right bums who are too far along in their obsession to do anything else with their life (the reality show and prolific youtube chroniclers, even the lower rung ones). Not to say the bums don't experience something authentic once in a purple moon. It's just a tiny slice of nothing important and that is all it will ever be. 3. OCD or some form of mental illness triggering the fascination 4. people who genuinely want to solve the mystery and make the decision to make a living by chasing it down as a perceived adventure. These personality types have difficulty escaping their compulsion because they genuinely experienced something extraordinary and impactful their mind cannot reconcile. My opinion (in a non propfessional psychological capacity since I have no credentials) is Wes fits #4 and is for real. His interviewing style is decent. He is not sensationalist in the least. He does the legwork to prepare for the podcasts and delivers some good material. Admittedly, some shows are junk and that is part of the process. You don't know what you will get with an hour long talk with someone. Some of the shows are spot on. The idiocy segments should go however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Crowlogic Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 (edited) I still wonder why the grieving brothers were both armed with hand guns when they decided to take that drive and have a brotherly heart to heart chat. A suicide pact perhaps? Maybe bigfoot appearing on that lonesome road was there to save their lives. Edited July 22, 2015 by Crowlogic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted July 22, 2015 SSR Team Share Posted July 22, 2015 I think you can bet your last dollar that if you came across an adult male in rural WA, he'd be armed at all times as opposed to not being, whether legal or not.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigantor Posted July 23, 2015 Admin Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) Haven't followed this thread, so I'll respond to the original post.... I am curious to read what the BFF members think about the idea of a forum where the people who have actually had experiences can go on a show, and be interviewed in a simple manner by just relating their experiences and feelings and descriptions of what they saw, heard, and felt. You are basically describing the BFF. They can join and post their experiences in the sightings section. I guarantee members will interview them in a simple manner about their experiences and descriptions of what they saw, heard and felt. Edited July 23, 2015 by gigantor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ChasingRabbits Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I think you can bet your last dollar that if you came across an adult male in rural WA, he'd be armed at all times as opposed to not being, whether legal or not.. That would go for any rural area, imo. and the NYC area because there are oodles of registered firearms owners suburban Westchester County and Rockland County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted July 23, 2015 SSR Team Share Posted July 23, 2015 Yep which, as per usual, moots Crow's sarcastic point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SoFla Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 (edited) Haven't followed this thread, so I'll respond to the original post.... You are basically describing the BFF. They can join and post their experiences in the sightings section. I guarantee members will interview them in a simple manner about their experiences and descriptions of what they saw, heard and felt. and then shoot every bit of it down as insufficient or a hoax-I've see how you do here you silly monkey man ;>) Edited July 24, 2015 by SoFla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ChasingRabbits Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Yep which, as per usual, moots Crow's sarcastic point. I would never get on a Metro North train and assume that the suburbanites around me aren't packing. Ever since 2012 when The New York Journal News published the names of registered firearms owners in Westchester and Rockland Counties, the crime rate on Metro North has declined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeafTalker Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Why would someone start a BF podcast website where they spend hours upon hours talking to people about the subject? If it did not have a deep meaning to a person, what is driving their interest? Is everything immediately seen as a con game because it isn't perfect research? Researching is a full time job just to find people to interview, vet the stories and get the details and questions together (or did you think it was all ad lib?). ....My opinion (in a non propfessional psychological capacity since I have no credentials) is Wes fits #4 and is for real. His interviewing style is decent. He is not sensationalist in the least. He does the legwork to prepare for the podcasts and delivers some good material. Admittedly, some shows are junk and that is part of the process. You don't know what you will get with an hour long talk with someone. Some of the shows are spot on. The idiocy segments should go however. Your clarity and steadfastness about this (like Gumshoeye's and others) is remarkable and deeply appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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