7.62 Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 5 hours ago, Twist said: Reading a thread like this makes it obvious why the BF field is so splintered. Talks of wanting to mock or ridicule one of the few scientists in the field that speaks up for BF is telling. His opinion is different than yours, so what? 90% of BF knowledge is speculation. It reeks of jealousy. I'm guessing you're addressing me because I used the term mock in my post . Maybe reread what I posted . Having a different opinion and straight out lying to it's viewers by pretending to find things during the course of this series is two different things . I guess maybe you don't see that ...............................................
wiiawiwb Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Huntster said: 4) Considering these thoughts, I'm more interested than ever about why such landowners would allow the filming of this series on their lands. Wasn't the property just sold/purchased prior to the filming of EB? In my opinion, EB was a fantastic way for a new owner, or any owner, to advertise the beauty and spectacular nature of that property. Maybe the owners are people who could give a hoot about bigfoot. What EB does do is create a marketing opportunity for them. 16 hours ago, Incorrigible1 said: Thinking Redbone was Sherlock Holmes in a previous life. Hey now way a second....I was singing Redbone's accolades about being Sherlock Homles two weeks ago! https://bigfootforums.com/topic/71678-cant-discuss-bigfoot-with-friends-and-family/page/14/?tab=comments#comment-1061536 Edited February 5, 2020 by wiiawiwb
Huntster Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, wiiawiwb said: Wasn't the property was just sold/purchased prior to the filming of EB? In my opinion, EB was a fantastic way for a new owner, or any owner, to advertise the beauty and spectacular nature of that property. Maybe the owners are people who could give a hoot about bigfoot. What EB does do is create a marketing opportunity for them. I thought that at first, too. But there were two problems with that theory: 1) They're actually hiding the fact that it's on the ranch. That isn't really good advertising if you don't identify the product. 2) I would think that large property owners with many millions of dollars invested in their parcels would not want any management intrusion whatsoever by government agencies or non-government organizations like environmental groups that might come into play if their lands were identified as productive sasquatch habitat on national tv. But considering those thoughts along with the fact that the property was just purchased (and thus income might be very welcome), getting paid by a major network to shoot on their lands and hiding the fact that it was their ranch makes all the sense in the world for both the ranch and the producers. They get paid and keep public exposure low, and thevprodu gets don't have to screw around with the feds getting a commercial filming permit and living up to the federal restrictions.
bipedalist Posted February 5, 2020 BFF Patron Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, 7.62 said: If they do any kind of appearances anywhere talking about the show now and have a question and answer segment for the audience they will be mocked . You can only stay so polite when people try to deceive you . This isn't just a typical reality TV show about some MTV nonsense this is something many people have devoted countless hours of their lives to. If I was in the audience and had a chance to speak I would call them out on their deceit . 7.62 to see how the real BF conference world is like, unless it has changed in 2 years, go to the Ocean Shores, WA (Grays Harbor County) BF Conference, Quinault Casino, right before Thanksgiving they pay air fare to hoaxers to appear. I am not naming names because I have done that in previous posts and don't want to be sued. This is not to say legitimate researchers do not present. Edited February 5, 2020 by bipedalist
wiiawiwb Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 I think notoriety puts money in the old cash register. They can say their property was chosen over hundreds of millions of acres of pristine wilderness available to chose from. A badge of honor.
7.62 Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, bipedalist said: 7.62 to see how the real BF conference world is like, unless it has changed in 2 years, go to the Ocean Shores, WA (Grays Harbor County) BF Conference, Quinault Casino, right before Thanksgiving they pay air fare to hoaxers to appear. I am not naming names because I have done that in previous posts and don't want to be sued. This is not to say legitimate researchers do not present. This subject is difficult enough without hoaxers involved Especially ones with Doctor in front of their names and well known researchers in the bigfoot field . I'm fairly new to this subject and have only been actively researching in the field for two years since my weird sighting but the definition of a Hoax is Definition - A hoax is a falsehood deliberately fabricated to masquerade as the truth. Pretending they somehow found a mine they couldn't go into. Stopping the doctor at the last second because it was a poison filled mine before she entered when guests of the ranch venture into it as an attraction . Saying they found a grave yard in the middle of no where . But it's next to a road and another of the things the ranch has on it's website. Pretending to find an old truck deep in the woods ...I could go on .. This whole show and everyone involved has lost all credibility . It's no different if I was to start posting fabricated stories and fabricated pictures of things I claimed I have been finding in my research and then being exposed by another member here. It's no different A liar is a liar no matter what your education level is whether you are a truck driver or a doctor . Edited February 5, 2020 by 7.62 3
DeWalt Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 4 hours ago, SWWASAS said: They might get a big surprise looking through the fur in the costume pants for a lower zipper. Somehow I don't think BF would like that. In spite of some discrete questions to habbers, I have yet to get a clear answer to the question of what can be normally seen down there. M.K. Davis discusses that in his Fence Climber analysis. Pretty clear video of his junk.
7.62 Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, wiiawiwb said: I think notoriety puts money in the old cash register. They can say their property was chosen over hundreds of millions of acres of pristine wilderness available to chose from. A badge of honor. There's nothing wrong with where they were . It's a beautiful ranch with lots of wilderness where a Sasquatch can hide or hunt. I really didn't see an obligation of the show to even tell us they were there researching just don't fabricate stories . This show is at the same level now as Mountain Monsters 2
wiiawiwb Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 No way. In my opinion, Mountain Monsters dress a bit more dapper and snazzy!! 2
7.62 Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, wiiawiwb said: No way. In my opinion, Mountain Monsters dress a bit more dapper and snazzy!! You know you're right . I apologize to the cast of Mountain Monsters for using them in the same sentence with Expedition Bigfoot 2
Twist Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 4 hours ago, 7.62 said: I'm guessing you're addressing me because I used the term mock in my post . Maybe reread what I posted . Having a different opinion and straight out lying to it's viewers by pretending to find things during the course of this series is two different things . I guess maybe you don't see that ............................................... I was not addressing any single person with my post but the group mentality. I wouldn’t read to much into us both using a common word in our respective posts.
Incorrigible1 Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 6 hours ago, DeWalt said: M.K. Davis discusses that in his Fence Climber analysis. Pretty clear video of his junk. ::Biting tongue fiercely!:: 1
NatFoot Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 15 hours ago, DeWalt said: M.K. Davis discusses that in his Fence Climber analysis. Pretty clear video of his junk. You have piqued my interest! 1 1
SWWASAS Posted February 5, 2020 BFF Patron Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, 7.62 said: This subject is difficult enough without hoaxers involved Especially ones with Doctor in front of their names and well known researchers in the bigfoot field . I'm fairly new to this subject and have only been actively researching in the field for two years since my weird sighting but the definition of a Hoax is Definition - A hoax is a falsehood deliberately fabricated to masquerade as the truth. Pretending they somehow found a mine they couldn't go into. Stopping the doctor at the last second because it was a poison filled mine before she entered when guests of the ranch venture into it as an attraction . Saying they found a grave yard in the middle of no where . But it's next to a road and another of the things the ranch has on it's website. Pretending to find an old truck deep in the woods ...I could go on .. This whole show and everyone involved has lost all credibility . It's no different if I was to start posting fabricated stories and fabricated pictures of things I claimed I have been finding in my research and then being exposed by another member here. It's no different A liar is a liar no matter what your education level is whether you are a truck driver or a doctor . I was just thinking about the show with relationship to 8 typical segments of Finding Bigfoot. They both found about the same amount of nothing in the same number of segments. I do not recall them seeing anything I would give more that a 50% chance it was due to bigfoot. As you mentioned, Expedition Bigfoot created drama. According to Cliff, in the last two or three years of Finding Bigfoot, when ratings started to fall, the producers wanted to get creative. The on screen actors revolted and shut that down to protect their credibility. Just the opposite seemed to happen in Expedition Bigfoot. While Dr Mayor seemed to question things at first, towards the end of the series, she seemed to go along with everything being ascribed to bigfoot by the other screen characters. Was she tired and ready to head home so just decided to go along and get it over? Probably. Now the cast is being invited to conferences. That is pouring gasoline on the fire of newly ignited egos. If they got away with creative drama on the first season, who knows what will happen if they film a second season? Forum members could make guest appearances very uncomfortable by asking a few questions. Edited February 5, 2020 by SWWASAS 1
Huntster Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Incorrigible1 said: ::Biting tongue fiercely!:: STOP! You bleed! Release the wit!
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