ShadowBorn Posted February 12, 2020 Moderator Share Posted February 12, 2020 He has said in his video that if he did ever try to shoot one of these creatures. That he would never make it back to his truck alive. This only says what a lot of us have said that these creatures never travel alone. Where you see one there are two or three around some where near. We just do not see those others that are around. Yes. it is true that he does not have no interest of pursuing these creatures. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted February 12, 2020 Admin Share Posted February 12, 2020 Which is a great cop out and coincides nicely with the “I don’t have to prove anything to you....just trust me” line of BS. And I cannot find any evidence of one, let alone 3-4! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7.62 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I watched a few videos but where is he attacking other researchers ? All of the negative remarks he seems to make are about people who scoff at someone who claims they had an encounter with one of these creatures . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRockBigfoot Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, 7.62 said: I watched a few videos but where is he attacking other researchers ? All of the negative remarks he seems to make are about people who scoff at someone who claims they had an encounter with one of these creatures . He is pretty harsh on Moneymaker (which is hard to dispute) and Jeff Meldrum. I can't point to any specific video off of my head, but it happens more often than not. 8 minutes ago, norseman said: Which is a great cop out and coincides nicely with the “I don’t have to prove anything to you....just trust me” line of BS. And I cannot find any evidence of one, let alone 3-4! That's my issue that I have begun to have with this. “I don’t have to prove anything to you....just trust me”. He attacks other people for doing this and then turns around and does the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7.62 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Moneymaker I can take him or leave him but Dr Meldrum is in my opinion a strong and valuable advocate and ally to have in this corner . I really didn't know he bashed him . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwakwe Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 In the "eye shine" video at 7:04ish the "head" seen between the larger foreground tree listing R and the smaller tree listing near parallel further back does seem to be just that- a head, with 2 eyes even. It almost seems as if there are pointed ears but hard to tell. Is it a Sas, I don't think so, likely racoon. Given the grounds drops off, it would have to be a very tall deer sporting the shining eye to the L. I think Steve has added his particular take to the pot of sasquatchery and it works for a lot of folks to hear what an experienced outdoorsman has to say on the matter. Is it repetitive, formulaic? IMO yep, after watching more than a couple, I've got it, I know he doesn't care what people think and that there are a lot of clueless idiots out there... I'm glad he's doing it because he is swaying a sector that was unreachable by other means. Barring a body, more people accepting the fact of existence is going to make it easier for some phd to put his/her reputation at risk by pursuing the question--longer road I know but in geologic time we're right on top of it. If Steve has an ulterior motive at this stage, and he's looking for financial gain or fame through the quest, good for him, but he better stay legit and not get too big for his britches or we'll roast his a*s*s on the BFF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7.62 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 37 minutes ago, ShadowBorn said: He has said in his video that if he did ever try to shoot one of these creatures. That he would never make it back to his truck alive. This only says what a lot of us have said that these creatures never travel alone. Where you see one there are two or three around some where near. We just do not see those others that are around. Yes. it is true that he does not have no interest of pursuing these creatures. I still don't subscribe to that notion if it's planned right. The lone hunter who happens across one and takes a shot maybe then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRockBigfoot Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, 7.62 said: I still don't subscribe to that notion if it's planned right. The lone hunter who happens across one and takes a shot maybe then. I don't agree with the idea that they are impossible to kill either. Difficult? Yes. Impossible? No. If they are impossible to kill with modern firearms, then they would have predated the Native Americans to extinction before the first European settlers arrived. They don't seem to fear us individually or even in small groups, but they certainly seem to understand that we are dangerous to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7.62 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, BlackRockBigfoot said: I don't agree with the idea that they are impossible to kill either. Difficult? Yes. Impossible? No. If they are impossible to kill with modern firearms, then they would have predated the Native Americans to extinction before the first European settlers arrived. They don't seem to fear us individually or even in small groups, but they certainly seem to understand that we are dangerous to them. Difficult is finding them but once you get a cross hair on one. Modern firearms will take one down just like it takes down a grizzly . If it doesn't then they are ghosts or phantoms not flesh and blood . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRockBigfoot Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, 7.62 said: Difficult is finding them but once you get a cross hair on one. Modern firearms will take one down just like it takes down a grizzly . If it doesn't then they are ghosts or phantoms not flesh and blood . Or grown in a lab to have bullet resistant skin, natural chest plates, and reinforced skulls...along with all of the other wild unsubstantiated claims that float around out there. If they were phantoms or bioengineered super predators, they wouldn't need to be so elusive. They would move and appear at will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSA Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 I think "shooting" a Sasquatch is like "climbing" a mountain. It describes only the easier half of the job. His stance on the topic tells me he appreciates that. When a man who puts people on grizzlies and moose to shoot them tells you "Uh-Uh", that speaks volumes to me, I don't know about you. I am kindly taken aback by him roundly trashing a lot of the better known researchers, although I think he hits it on the head when he calls many of them entertainers. There is a lot of that always happening; The Bigfootery Circus, of course. I can see how one who has enough personal field experience with the animal would want to just say, "Enough already!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRockBigfoot Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, WSA said: I think "shooting" a Sasquatch is like "climbing" a mountain. It describes only the easier half of the job. His stance on the topic tells me he appreciates that. When a man who puts people on grizzlies and moose to shoot them tells you "Uh-Uh", that speaks volumes to me, I don't know about you. I am kindly taken aback by him roundly trashing a lot of the better known researchers, although I think he hits it on the head when he calls many of them entertainers. There is a lot of that always happening; The Bigfootery Circus, of course. I can see how one who has enough personal field experience with the animal would want to just say, "Enough already!" But, what has he done so far with this subject that is any different than the entertainers? At the end of the day, he reads submitted accounts off of his phone on YouTube. Maybe the big 'something' that is coming that he consistently hints at will revolutionize the field. I hope that it does. I am no fan of the BFRO, so I would welcome other organized efforts to look into this phenomenon. I like his overall attitude and would love to see something like that. Maybe I am just impatient. But, the constant attacks on people like Meldrum while Steve himself hasn't really done anything in this field other than post a few secondhand accounts is getting old. He is constantly talking about helping people and how grateful they are. There are dozens of podcasts that would recount people's encounters online regardless of how out there the story is. Other than the backdrops and his hunting pedigree, I don't see what is so groundbreaking in his channel so far. I hope that he has some definitive project that is close to being unveiled that will knock out socks off. But, every video is just more of the same formula. Impressive background. Check. Talk about how his movement is growing. Check. Talk about how crappy the BFRO is. Check. Read an encounter. Check. Talk about how many people his channel has helped and how they are turning the tide in the Bigfoot world. Check. Tell people that he is building something that is going to revolutionize the field. Check. That was pretty cool the first few times. Now? Let me know when something happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIB Posted February 12, 2020 Moderator Share Posted February 12, 2020 While I'm not a huge fan of Moneymaker (aka Moneytaker, per Steve) and Meldrum (aka "Mel-Dumb", per Steve), if the alternative is to suck up to Scott Carpenter and Melba Ketchum, I'm not impressed. 20 minutes ago, BlackRockBigfoot said: That was pretty cool the first few times. Now? Let me know when something happens. That's where I'm at. He has promised something big. Ok. Deliver. So far he's just backed up his talk with more talk. I'm ready to see some walk. MIB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwakwe Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 In economic terms that would be called diminishing marginal utility. What he is putting out is novel to some. Saturate oneself there and it is indeed same old same old. In the end and even in the beginning, it is one guy doing his thing. We can't look to him solve this. As Trinity says: The answer is out there--where we who feel the need-to-know should be--rifle in hand if it's YOUR thing to solve it for everyone. Methinks the solution is ours to suss out. Go on, git, git out there:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lam90 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 hours ago, BlackRockBigfoot said: He has a video where he discusses the strength and physical prowess of these creatures. He says that it was overwhelmingly intimidating to witness and that he no longer attempts to seek them out. Ohhhh. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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