Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Not true Mulder. Shelterwood Labs existed first and then became DNA Diagnostics. Then came BioGen Diagnostics and after that an attempt at Heli-Gen. DNA Diagnostcis Inc was registered as a business in December 17, 1990 Another DNA Diagnostics, Inc was registered as a business in February 2, 1993 BioGen Diagnostics was registered as a business in August 18, 2011 heli-gen.com was registered as a domain name on Sept, 9, 2011 What exactly is the lab she is currently setting up Mulder? I have yet to see any evidence of it (sort of like the paper). Maybe the paper got lost somewhere in one of the old businesses. Hmmmmm... Still playing the "absence of evidence" card, eh Scully? It doesn't matter what order the names came in...she's in the process of revamping her business and probably hasn't gotten all the paperwork sorted yet. That is far more likely the explanation as opposed to the Skeptical accusations of some sinister motive or purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 ^^^^^ Did a source with close ties tell you that? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VioletX Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 It's a conspiracy that the show got cancelled. lol. No..she is actually just sick according to her PR person. : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BFSleuth Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 The one's listed in the Texas Business registry. Listed as "not in good standing" What does "not in good standing" mean? It doesn't mean the business is "out of business" or defunct. It does mean the business is not current with tax payments. Nothing more and nothing less. You can read into that what you want, but saying that "not in good standing" is equal to "out of business" is false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Still playing the "absence of evidence" card, eh Scully? Nope. Here ya go. If you want to call the state of Texas a liar you go right ahead. DNA Diagnostcis Inc was registered as a business in December 17, 1990 https://ourcpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&Search_Nm=DNA%20Diagnostics%20&Button=search&Search_ID=30113734161 Another DNA Diagnostics, Inc was registered as a business in Feruary 2, 1993 https://ourcpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&Search_Nm=DNA%20Diagnostics%20&Button=search&Search_ID=30113734161 BioGen Diagnostics was registered as a business in August 18, 2011 https://ourcpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&Search_Nm=BioGen%20&Button=search&Search_ID=32044891599 heli-gen.com was registered as a domain name on Sept, 9, 2011 http://whois.domaintools.com/heli-gen.com I am going to type this in capital letters so that you can read it very clearly Mulder. YOU ACCUSED ME ABOVE OF NOT PROVIDING ANY EVIDENCE. WELL I JUST LINKED TO THE TEXAS BUSINESS ENTITY WEBSITE SHOWING THE DATES SHE CREATED THOSE BUSINESSES AS WELL AS THE RECENT DOMAIN NAME SHE REGISTERED. she's in the process of revamping her business and probably hasn't gotten all the paperwork sorted yet. She apparently has problems with all sorts of paperwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) But, Mulder, this is what you said - that I responded to: I gotta ask (after reading the link above) which "business" are you referring to? Seems like she spends a lot of time creating new businesses.. Old business or not. Whether you like the BBB or not - this is a problem for her. No it's not. I have reviewed again her BBB file. of 25 complaints filed 21 were for late delivery of work issues and 4 were categorized as Problems with Product/Service. However, reviewing the actual complaints shows that those complaints as well centered on issues of late/absent results. One complaint did allege problems with testing but the investigation showed that the problem was on the customer end for improper harvesting of the sample (cut hair instead of plucked). Again, ZERO evidence of any problem with the quality of her lab work whatsoever. Her problems were strictly on the business side, and entirely not relevent to any findings of the DNA study to hand. I also think it's unfair that anyone might suggest the BBB is nothing more than a "shakedown for money" business. There are many companies in this country who work hard to keep a BBB rating and stand by their rating as proof of the hard work they do and their customer satisfaction. More the fool them then: 20/20 Expose of the BBB: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/business-bureau-best-ratings-money-buy/story?id=12123843#.UNImo6zNkwg (includes links to the actual report) Edited December 19, 2012 by Mulder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BFSleuth Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) ^^ So, you've posted evidence that she's registered several business names and a domain name. And...... ? Edited December 19, 2012 by BFSleuth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 What does "not in good standing" mean? It doesn't mean the business is "out of business" or defunct. Yes it does. it means that the State of Texas does not recognize it as a taxable entity. It means you cannot do business in the state of Texas with that particular taxable entity. ^^ So, you've posted evidence that she's registered several business names and a domain name. And...... ? Math. Do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Nope. Here ya go. If you want to call the state of Texas a liar you go right ahead. DNA Diagnostcis Inc was registered as a business in December 17, 1990 https://ourcpa.cpa.s..._ID=30113734161 Another DNA Diagnostics, Inc was registered as a business in Feruary 2, 1993 https://ourcpa.cpa.s..._ID=30113734161 BioGen Diagnostics was registered as a business in August 18, 2011 https://ourcpa.cpa.s..._ID=32044891599 heli-gen.com was registered as a domain name on Sept, 9, 2011 http://whois.domaint...om/heli-gen.com I am going to type this in capital letters so that you can read it very clearly Mulder. YOU ACCUSED ME ABOVE OF NOT PROVIDING ANY EVIDENCE. WELL I JUST LINKED TO THE TEXAS BUSINESS ENTITY WEBSITE SHOWING THE DATES SHE CREATED THOSE BUSINESSES AS WELL AS THE RECENT DOMAIN NAME SHE REGISTERED. She apparently has problems with all sorts of paperwork. None of which proves that her businesses are in any way "defunct" or "out of business" or any such thing. She has publically stated that she is revamping her operations to emphasize research over commercial testing. What proof do you offer to show that statement is incorrect or misleading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Again, ZERO evidence of any problem with the quality of her lab work whatsoever. Her problems were strictly on the business side, Earth to Mulder. Her business was a lab !! If there is a problem with the business it means there is a problem with the lab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Yes it does. it means that the State of Texas does not recognize it as a taxable entity. It means you cannot do business in the state of Texas with that particular taxable entity. Math. Do it. Claim...prove it. Earth to Mulder. Her business was a lab !! If there is a problem with the business it means there is a problem with the lab. Not in a million years, Scully. READ. THE. COMPLAINTS. Of 25 submitted complaints (out of the untold 1000s and 1000s of tests her lab must have run over the years. 24 were about late delivery of results or tests allegedly not done. ONE case alleged problems with her lab findings and that issue was traced to an issue with improper sampling by the customer, not any failure of laboratory processes. ZERO complaints therefore had anything to do with the quality of her science, which is entirely separate from the business side of the lab which would handle mailing out the results and tracking orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Again for at least the tenth time, I hope I'm wrong, but she seems to have many questionable colleages. Both her former and current PR people seem a little, maybe a lot flakey. Combine that with the questionable business issues and a pretty ugly picture begins to emerge. This does not mean the science is bad, but it does, maybe, explain why a lot of people have run away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) None of which proves that her businesses are in any way "defunct" or "out of business" or any such thing. Umm those are. Not in good standing means they are NOT active businesses. She has publically stated that she is revamping her operations to emphasize research over commercial testing. What proof do you offer to show that statement is incorrect or misleading? Not anymore than she does that this is actually occuring. Yet you hang on her every word like it is infallable. How much longer are you going to stay invested in this Mulder. When weeks turn into months and the report is not out what will you do then? Edited December 19, 2012 by Art1972 to remove inflammatory content.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BFSleuth Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Whether you like the BBB or not - this is a problem for her. I also think it's unfair that anyone might suggest the BBB is nothing more than a "shakedown for money" business. There are many companies in this country who work hard to keep a BBB rating and stand by their rating as proof of the hard work they do and their customer satisfaction. Melba Ketchum's BBB rating - is her problem. More the fool them then: 20/20 Expose of the BBB: http://abcnews.go.co...43#.UNImo6zNkwg (includes links to the actual report) Amen to the 20/20 expose of the BBB! As a businessperson that has had dealings with the BBB I can vouch for that report. The scam is very similar to the one perpetrated by Yelp, it's a pay for rating scam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Anyone who takes negative ratings by the BBB seriously is falling for the scam.; I recall asking a former Boss of a company that I helped run "Are we listed with the BBB?" His answer "No. It's a scam. They want you to pay for a "good recommendation" I trust Bernie, he's been doing business for 50 years, with primarily Law Enforcement, local, state, and federal. So if Melba Ketchum has any negative marks with the BBB, it's just because she didn't pay them a fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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