gigantor Posted February 8, 2023 Admin Share Posted February 8, 2023 7 hours ago, Marty said: best to remain peaceful and nonthreatening, Good advice. The first couple of times we went into our research area, we were green and went unarmed. Heard some tree knocking and got escorted out of the area which scared us badly. After that we came loaded for bear and ready to kick some ass, nothing, it was like they left the area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 38 minutes ago, gigantor said: Good advice. The first couple of times we went into our research area, we were green and went unarmed. Heard some tree knocking and got escorted out of the area which scared us badly. After that we came loaded for bear and ready to kick some ass, nothing, it was like they left the area. What did that sound like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigantor Posted February 8, 2023 Admin Share Posted February 8, 2023 3 hours ago, norseman said: What did that sound like? We were at a canyon bottom and had a long uphill hike to get out, 500 foot climb on a forest service road. We were goofing around and WVFooter immitated a Bobo howl , I grabbed two rocks and made some clacks. We started our hike and a few minutes later heard some brush rustling. We just ignored it thinking it was a deer or something, kept hiking and then we started to hear heavy footfalls. We stopped and it stopped. We continued and it resumed. Stopped again and it stopped, we repeated that 4 or 5 times. It had rained so we could hear the splash when the foot hit the ground. I couldn't reproduce the loudness with my boots. That's when I started getting apprehensive. Kept hiking and it continued to follow us. We couldn't see the damn thing, it stayed behind the brush the whole time. Finally WVFooter pulled out his .22 revolver , screamed in the general direction and fired two shots into a tree. It didn't like that and started crashing loudly through the brush away from us. The last 100 yards we broke the world record running to the truck. We came back a couple of weeks later well armed to retrieve the sound recorders and trail cameras, they were gone and have never been back. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, gigantor said: We were at a canyon bottom and had a long uphill hike to get out, 500 foot climb on a forest service road. We were goofing around and WVFooter immitated a Bobo howl , I grabbed two rocks and made some clacks. We started our hike and a few minutes later heard some brush rustling. We just ignored it thinking it was a deer or something, kept hiking and then we started to hear heavy footfalls. We stopped and it stopped. We continued and it resumed. Stopped again and it stopped, we repeated that 4 or 5 times. It had rained so we could hear the splash when the foot hit the ground. I couldn't reproduce the loudness with my boots. That's when I started getting apprehensive. Kept hiking and it continued to follow us. We couldn't see the damn thing, it stayed behind the brush the whole time. Finally WVFooter pulled out his .22 revolver , screamed in the general direction and fired two shots into a tree. It didn't like that and started crashing loudly through the brush away from us. The last 100 yards we broke the world record running to the truck. We came back a couple of weeks later well armed to retrieve the sound recorders and trail cameras, they were gone and have never been back. Oh wow! I’m glad that you didn’t have to stop a charge with a .22! It’s much better at knee capping your buddy, so you can escape!🤣 So something took all your equipment? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiiawiwb Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 4 hours ago, gigantor said: We were at a canyon bottom and had a long uphill hike to get out, 500 foot climb on a forest service road. We were goofing around and WVFooter immitated a Bobo howl , I grabbed two rocks and made some clacks. We started our hike and a few minutes later heard some brush rustling. We just ignored it thinking it was a deer or something, kept hiking and then we started to hear heavy footfalls. We stopped and it stopped. We continued and it resumed. Stopped again and it stopped, we repeated that 4 or 5 times. It had rained so we could hear the splash when the foot hit the ground. I couldn't reproduce the loudness with my boots. That's when I started getting apprehensive. Kept hiking and it continued to follow us. We couldn't see the damn thing, it stayed behind the brush the whole time. Finally WVFooter pulled out his .22 revolver , screamed in the general direction and fired two shots into a tree. It didn't like that and started crashing loudly through the brush away from us. The last 100 yards we broke the world record running to the truck. We came back a couple of weeks later well armed to retrieve the sound recorders and trail cameras, they were gone and have never been back. Being followed and hearing steps must be very disconcerting. You know someone, or something, has you in its sights and you still have a trek ahead of you to return to the safety of the vehicle. It moments like that when you realize it is in control of the situation and could take you whenever it wanted. What we do in the woods is not for the feint of heart. Do you think it was the discharging of the revolver that ultimately cause them to move away? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigantor Posted February 8, 2023 Admin Share Posted February 8, 2023 Norse, the equipment was there, I meant "they" were gone. 5 hours ago, wiiawiwb said: Do you think it was the discharging of the revolver that ultimately cause them to move away? Yes I do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 59 minutes ago, gigantor said: Norse, the equipment was there, I meant "they" were gone. Yes I do. That was the incident that made you decide to get your 1911. I remember when you first were test-firing it on the range it tended to jam until you got that after market kit that eliminated the problem. Edited February 8, 2023 by hiflier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigantor Posted February 8, 2023 Admin Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, hiflier said: That was the incident that made you decide to get your 1911. I remember when you first were test-firing it on the range it tended to jam until you got that after market kit that eliminated the problem. Good.memory. You we're auditing all the recordings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 This is what I threw in mine. https://www.460rowland.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, gigantor said: Good.memory. You we're auditing all the recordings... Not all of them, g, though that was my intention. And I still feel bad that I got a bit burnt out after a while. But I found I wasn't doing anyone any favors, especially you, when my focus on what I was listening to began to wander. I was afraid I'd miss something critical and so had to hand the project back to you. It was a pretty danged cool project and a privilege to be be involved in it, especially so early in my BF membership. Pretty danged cool indeed. Edited February 8, 2023 by hiflier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgerm Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 On 2/7/2023 at 9:17 PM, norseman said: Oh wow! I’m glad that you didn’t have to stop a charge with a .22! It’s much better at knee capping your buddy, so you can escape!🤣 So something took all your equipment? You would have to shoot directly into the eye while on all fours going 40 mph .............................. got one chance then it gets messy. Just another 411 case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIB Posted February 13, 2023 Moderator Share Posted February 13, 2023 On 2/8/2023 at 9:43 AM, norseman said: This is what I threw in mine. https://www.460rowland.com What do you feed it .. are you sticking with .45 ACP bullets at higher velocity or are you switching to a tougher bullet? At that kind of velocity I'd expect the bullets Hodgdon's site shows data for (185 XPT, 200 grain Speer .. which I assume is the old flying ashtray though I don't know that for sure, and 230 grain XTP) to shed their jackets pretty abruptly which would limit penetration on larger animals. That's theory though, haven't had a chance to test it out. Have you? If so .. results? (Thanks!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 34 minutes ago, MIB said: What do you feed it .. are you sticking with .45 ACP bullets at higher velocity or are you switching to a tougher bullet? At that kind of velocity I'd expect the bullets Hodgdon's site shows data for (185 XPT, 200 grain Speer .. which I assume is the old flying ashtray though I don't know that for sure, and 230 grain XTP) to shed their jackets pretty abruptly which would limit penetration on larger animals. That's theory though, haven't had a chance to test it out. Have you? If so .. results? (Thanks!!) https://www.460rowland.com/product/johnnys-defense-against-large-and-dangerous-game-250gr-hc/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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