LeafTalker Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) IT IS FAMED HOAXER RICK DYER. CHANCES HE HAS A BODY: %0 CHANCES YOU WILL END UP DISAPPOINTED IF YOU BELIEVE RICK DYER: %100 Okay. (Your signature is one of my favorites.) (And that's only a digression, not an attempt to mock anything.) (The only thing that bugs me is the part about "unconditional" things being pathological. What about unconditional love? I don't think unconditional love is pathological. But otherwise, Nietzche seems right on, to me.) Edited February 9, 2013 by LeafTalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I hear you..but understand...Musky is agitated and frustrated. He's convinced Dyer has the goods as is now poed that BF eveidence got in his face on the Muldrem e mails. I don't think the *WE* you refer to was necessarily a collaborative effort... at that time, they very well may have been doing it INDEPENDENTLY. Keep in mind..Musky was pestering and challenging a LOT of people Just posting what was said. Read into it what you will. I agree he was pretty upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 "I agree he was pretty upset." Yes...and oddly enough...that lends more credibility to Musky's claim that this Meldrum drama is a RED HERRING. A mis-interpretation of what Musky says was an invite going back to 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeafTalker Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I hear you..but understand...Musky is agitated and frustrated. He's convinced Dyer has the goods as is now poed that BF evidence got in his face on the Muldrem e mails. I don't think the *WE* you refer to was necessarily a collaborative effort... at that time, they very well may have been doing it INDEPENDENTLY. So. in RETROSPECT..he uses the term *WE* since they both had a similar goal. Keep in mind..Musky was pestering and challenging a LOT of people Wow. I think this is brilliant. I'm not saying I "know" that what you're saying COULD be the truth IS the truth; but what you are showing us is that there is ambiguity here. What you say could well be true! And I'm hoping it is, although I don't know for sure one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) Funny, I wasn't listening to the show, but saw when Joe posted it on facebook. We have a mutual friend and I just found out it's apparently true. I have a feeling something will happen and he won't actually get to see it because of some crap Dyer comes up with though. I knew this thing wasn't over. ugh! Don't get too excited. RD said no one else is allowed to see it until just before the release and he (Joe) could go out then (to see it). Later on, he said the next people to see it are the FBFB guys - no time frame mentioned. "I agree he was pretty upset." Yes...and oddly enough...that lends more credibility to Musky's claim that this Meldrum drama is a RED HERRING. A mis-interpretation of what Musky says was an invite going back to 2009. I see it a little differently. I see it as getting upset and going off script is when slip ups happen, which is what happened with the Shawn Ev thing. Obviously he didn't contact Meldrum for Vegas, but I think the way he worded his first statement was deliberately misleading and he underestimated the backlash. Why am I still awake?? Can someone explain the RD - Shawn E fight to me (privately if we can't discuss it publicly)? How was Musky involved? Edited February 9, 2013 by Belmar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Dyer makes no sense. When asked about certain details about the body he either answers with great detail, or says he didn't look at it much(I just shot the thing) or he's not allowed to talk about the body. He's all over the place depending on the question. Considering he shot an elusive primate that's considered a myth I find it highly unlikely that he just shot it without actually looking it over in extreme detail and on top of it he part owner of said body yet says he's not allowed to talk about the body but Musky is? Shenanigans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oonjerah Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 @ronn1 (I'm not following Musky, just going by quotes of him in here.) He said he exhausted himself trying to communicate with Meldrum to invite him ... Meldrum flatly denies it. Musky counters with, "I mean I did it in 2009." Tonight, he said to Dyer, "when we exposed Shawn's real name". Then you, ronn1, suggest he means something they both did but not as a team. If so, is Musky someone who speaks in an unusual way, a way that makes sense to him but not others? He is unknowingly speaking out of context? Others hear his mis- speaking as lies, and they get mad. And now in middle-age, he still hasn't figured out that he's creating a communication problem that results in nobody trusts him? Is that what you hear? He becomes frustrated and agitated whenever he has a blatant failure to communicate? Would tend to make a guy a loner. BTW, I wish I'd get sleepy, go to bed, and forget all this until late tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) He said he exhausted himself trying to communicate with Meldrum to invite him ... Meldrum flatly denies it. Musky counters with, "I mean I did it in 2009." He actually wrote to arrange for him to 'accompany me.' He didn't write a few years back or accompany me to Snell Lake or wherever it was. Maybe he was thinking it but it didn't make it to the screen. At some point though, we have to stop finding excuses for all the things that are not adding up. Edited February 9, 2013 by Belmar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Don't get too excited. RD said no one else is allowed to see it until just before the release and he (Joe) could go out then (to see it). Later on, he said the next people to see it are the FBFB guys - no time frame mentioned. I see it a little differently. I see it as getting upset and going off script is when slip ups happen, which is what happened with the Shawn Ev thing. Obviously he didn't contact Meldrum for Vegas, but I think the way he worded his first statement was deliberately misleading and he underestimated the backlash. Why am I still awake?? Can someone explain the RD - Shawn E fight to me (privately if we can't discuss it publicly)? How was Musky involved? The fight was months ago when Shawn Evidence was posting smack about Dyer, so Rick got mad and was trying to find Shawn's real name to expose him. I don't recall Musky being involved in it, just Dyer, but now we have Musky saying "we did our research and we exposed his name". So Musky and Dyer both decided to expose Shawn at the same time when Shawn was blogging about Dyer, not Musky, but Musky decided to expose Shawn for something to do. Yea right. Coincidence's are funny things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oonjerah Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 He actually wrote to arrange for him to 'accompany me.' He didn't write a few years back or accompany me to Snell Lake or wherever it was. Maybe he was thinking it but it didn't make it to the screen. At some point though, we have to stop finding excuses for all the things that are not adding up. I don't feel any sympathy or urge to make excuses for Musky. Just commenting on a dysfunction in communication if he habitually makes these same errors. My first impulse, is, "I don't believe a word he says." 'Cause I suspect he's in on the hoax with Dyer. Maybe he's been partying for 2-3 days and getting stupid behind it. Blowing his lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Thanks Sq2. So months ago, while Musky was the world's biggest skeptic and believed RD to be a fraud and they weren't chummy at all, he independently decided to bring down SE. Gotcha. I don't feel any sympathy or urge to make excuses for Musky. Just commenting on a dysfunction in communication if he habitually makes these same errors. My first impulse, is, "I don't believe a word he says." 'Cause I suspect he's in on the hoax with Dyer. Maybe he's been partying for 2-3 days and getting stupid behind it. Blowing his lines. I was being sarcastic, sorry. I think he's full of it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I actually thought Dyer made more sense than Musky. His excuse about the Meldrum bit was really weak and quite lame. I read what he wrote and it was quite evident that he was talking about the here and now. After listening to all this, I think it's a lose - lose proposition for the advancement of the study and search for bigfoot. If there's no body etc., then more negativity gets added to the subject, again. If there is, it won't be taken seriously because it was made public in a film involving Rick Dyer. There will always be a cloud of doubt. And who in their right mind will believe it knowing that the body is on display in a Vegas casino. What a horrible final resting place it would be to have such a magnificent creature on display for gawking tourists in Las Vegas. If a body ever does materialize it must never be put on display in Vegas. People need to band together and put a stop to that idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ishcabibble Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 This thread is dead to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Yeah, same here... Dyer is a well known hoaxer, and I won't be party to feeding him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkGlasgow Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I truly find the whole thing completely bemusing. The holes in the story are getting larger every time these jokers open their mouths. I have no idea where ronn and LT are coming from. Either wanting to believe so badly the they cannot see the very clear writing on the wall or perhaps simply going against the grain is more fun than digesting what is unfolding before them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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