Guest Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 (edited) JackiLB But the thing is, firstly, I feel that dwelling on the 2008 hoax is not allowing people to view this story 'objectively'. You are not allowing yourself to think 'outside of the box' because you are chained to the historic 'damage'. Okay, I do not approach investigations or statements the way you are asking me to. Why should I treat Dyer any better than I would someone sitting in a jail cell looking for help? You are asking me to come from a place of emotion. To set aside what I already know to be true about this person - based on past experience - and simply pretend it never happened. Sorry, I can't do that, nor would I ask anyone to do that. It would be foolish to do that. P.S. I am not damaged. Angry - maybe. But, I am no one's victim and while I am angry with him for what he did - it's his words - his own statements today that make me believe he has not changed. I am being objective by simply involving myself in this conversation and listening to his video's and reading his comments. It's up to him to prove himself - that is not my job, nor is it yours. Yes, you have remarked more than once about the inability of some of us to trust. Once bitten twice shy. njjohn said: Jacki, it's not just 2008. It's 2009, 2011 twice and now. It's easy to say, sure let's just look at the facts of this one, but again you only have words. But when you include the previous, it all matches up exactly to what was said in both actions and words. I would plus 1 you if I could. Edited February 20, 2013 by Melissa
Guest Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 and it will take more than a CNN news conference to convince me -- wayyyyyy more - we are talking a team of world renown scientists saying he did in deed kill a bigfoot. REally? How do you cope day to day with this fear? Must be very hard JackiLB Well thats fine. We think differently. Enough said Oh no! oh no!
Guest Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 (edited) Not me but I did send the guy a message through Youtube to see when he's going out there again. I may join him if we can schedule it. You can see some of the exact same things, in his video, that I photographed, including the tent. Which, by the way, looks like the tent in RD's video. The scat is from a horse or a cow, not anything else. The scat could also be Hog, lots of Hog there, and they poop alot. Edited February 20, 2013 by Skunkfoot
Guest Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 JackiLB said: REally? How do you cope day to day with this fear? Must be very hard What fear? What in the world are you talking about? That's not fear - that is common sense.
Guest Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 JackiLB said: What fear? What in the world are you talking about? That's not fear - that is common sense. Well of course its based on fear. Fear of being conned?
Guest Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 No - it's wanting good information from a reputable source. It has nothing to do with fear.
Guest Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 No - it's wanting good information from a reputable source. It has nothing to do with fear. And why would you want information from a reputable source??? Because you do not want failure or letdown or any other kind of negativity in your life. Its a basic human protective instinct. Fear protects us.
Guest VioletX Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 I wonder why the disbelievers are sticking around? Just fun to debate it or is there an eensy teensy bit of doubt in your heads that this is a hoax??
Guest njjohn Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 That's not fear. You've brought up fear multiple times as if to make it seem like it's a weakness. Trusting without reason is the weakness. Trust is something someone has to earn. Same with respect.
Guest VioletX Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 (edited) And why would you want information from a reputable source??? Because you do not want failure or letdown or any other kind of negativity in your life. Its a basic human protective instinct. Fear protects us. I think the ones that are open-minded here are a bit mad and or fearless,lol. We could be smart and pretty much quiet like Chris Noel and FB/FB and have some peace of mind, but here we are in the fray, getting our daily lashings. I guess I do not mind if I get egg on my face, I will sacrifice my dignity for my curiousity. Edited February 20, 2013 by VioletX
Guest Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 (edited) Are you kidding me? LOL. Why wouldn't and shouldn't everyone want information from a reputable source? That is just smart. Dyer is not that source. That has nothing to do with fear. I think the ones that are open-minded here are a bit mad and or fearless,lol. We could be smart and pretty much quiet like Chris Noel and FB/FB and have some peace of mind, but here we are in the fray, getting our daily lashings. I guess I do not mind if I get egg on my face, I will sacrifice my dignity for my curiousity. No, the new BFF does not allow for daily lashings. Edited February 20, 2013 by Melissa
Guest Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 Are you kidding me? LOL. Why wouldn't and shouldn't everyone want information from a reputable source? That is just smart. Dyer is not that source. That has nothing to do with fear. Yes I too want information from a reputable source because otherwise I fear that something negative may happen in my life. Its only natural. I am not insulting you. Believe me.
Guest VioletX Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 No, the new BFF does not allow for daily lashings. Oh man, bummer, that means I have to go get them someplace else...
Guest Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 I think the ones that are open-minded here are a bit mad and or fearless,lol. Thats it VX - we are FEARLESS!!! (or mad)
Guest Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 No that is the first time I have said that? Yes I do know how much Rick Dyer, Bicardi and the other one...whats his name upset the BF community. I know I wasnt part of the community then, but that doesnt mean that I havent learnt how much damage it caused and I do fully appreciate how horrible an experience it must have been. And if this one also pans out to be a hoax, I too may hold on to historic 'wounds'. But the thing is, firstly, I feel that dwelling on the 2008 hoax is not allowing people to view this story 'objectively'. You are not allowing yourself to think 'outside of the box' because you are chained to the historic 'damage'. Try and rid yourself of that negative history, even if it is just for a day, and try and look on this story with different eyes. Secondly, I would like to point out that Rick Dyer is not the only person in history who has staged a BF hoax. He has been one of hundreds. And they keep coming and coming and coming. Is there nothing that can be done to penalise the many BF hoaxers out there? Rick Dyer seems to take the brunt of the lot of them. Finally, do you really really think he feasibly could pull off a hoax so complex and expensive as this one, and secondly do you really think he would want to pull off yet another hoax? I have used this analogy several times. Think of Dyers Bigfoot claims as him writing a check. Now, so far he has written three bad checks. Do you think the fourth one is going too be good? He didn't do just one hoax. He had done three so far. How many benefits of A doubt are we supposed to give him?
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