What Have You Learned On The Bff?

[norseman]

There are any number of situations, documented, in which land managers have moved in a direction away from conservation/caretaking/headache and toward accommodation/the easy road/getting the cut out. [uSFS pro-logger term]

This is just the sort of thing that a land manager would cover up simply to avoid the headache. More than one report, in fact, documents it.

Naive is not something to be about management; politics; or this subject.

You are learning something on the BFF right on this thread! Couldn't be more on topic.

In the west federal timber sales are way down from what they were thirty years ago...

http://www.fs.fed.us/forestmanagement/aboutus/today.shtml

There was a time when the timber industry enjoyed privileged status if you will, but those days are long gone. The northwest forest plan came in and the heyday of logging stopped forever. Most lumber comes from private sales now

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Forest_Plan

[southernyahoo]

BFF is like Nascar where as every few minutes you are right back where you started from.

 

And you win through attrition only.

[Guest]

@Norseman, and the existance of a previously unknown species of great ape in North America would give the wildlife agencies even greater leverage over the loggers.

Edited February 5, 2014 by Jerrymanderer

[Guest DWA]

^^^avoiding another loop on the NASCAR track...something he learned on the BFF so ON TOPIC...

[norseman]

@jerry

I think so, yes, which is why I am pro kill. But different agencies and different forests have different supervisors with different agendas. There is pressure to defend one's turf.

For instance where Iam from, one partner may work for the forest service while the other works in the timber industry or mining industry or cattle industry. With forest service policies effecting each industry.

It comes down to macro vs micro views. Those at the top would certainly rejoice at a undiscovered ape, those on the front lines? Not do much..... And data can be manipulated.

We can see this in gorilla habitat and orang habitat right now in macro as well. The pull of industry over resources versus endangered species. In poor countries that need income the animals lose out. But in the US right now animals are winning......but for how long? The more Americas are hurt by recession the more risks they are willing to take.

Edited February 5, 2014 by norseman