Guest Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Thanks Gumshoe. It is difficult to even imagine the horror of being eaten alive, but being kept alive by a monster ranks up there pretty high as something no one would ever wish to experience. Have any ever escaped and talked about their captivity?
MIB Posted December 30, 2014 Moderator Posted December 30, 2014 SSQ - There are people who claimed to have been captured and who escaped. I can think of 3 from the US and 1 from the USSR / Russia. None seem to have been horribly mistreated. The Russian gal, if I recall correctly, eventually chose to return to her previous captor. Uh, nobody has been eaten and returned to tell about it. MIB
Guest Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 I too have read accounts of people being picked up and just added to the BF family unit/pod. The Russian girl returned to a BF willingly? To live with it? Yikes Thrice, and then some..
Guest Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) I too have read accounts of people being picked up and just added to the BF family unit/pod. The Russian girl returned to a BF willingly? To live with it? Yikes Thrice, and then some.. There’s a few but here is three: Abduct 1871 Harrison River Area, Harrison Mills, British Columbia An Indian woman was abducted by a Sasquatch near the community of Harrison Mills, and was able to escape the creature. Chehalis Indian woman told by abductee to J.W. Burns and noted Ivan Sanderson. http://www.sasquatchcanada.com/uploads/9/4/5/1/945132/british_columbia-sasquatch-sighting-reports.pdf Residence, Abduct November 22, 1883 Ohio county, West Virginia " For some time, the citizens of the south part of Ohio county, W. Va., about twenty miles from Wheeling, have been trying to capture a strange man who occasionally made his appearance at isolated homesteads, generally in the absence of the man of the house, and by brandishing a large club terrorizing the women folks into giving him food. He always appeared dressed in skins, and was never known to speak. He was of gigantic stature and ferocious aspect, and had been a terror to the community. Several attempts have been made to capture him, but without success. It is supposed he lives in one of the many caves in the vicinity. This morning he went to the house of George Powell, soon after that gentleman had gone to his work. Howling like a wild beast and frothing at the mouth, he attacked Mrs. Powell with his club, fracturing her skull and otherwise injuring her. He then picked up her only child, a boy about five years of age, and darted into the woods, carrying it screaming in his arms. A neighbor passing the house shortly afterward found Mrs. Powell in a critical condition, but able to tell what had happened. A man started at once for the nearest town and organized a party to pursue the strange creature and rescue the child. They soon struck a trail, and after following it for about five miles, came upon the body of the boy, whose brains had been dashed out on a tree. Two of the party returned to Powell's with the child and the rest continued the search for the man, but at last accounts they had not succeeded in overtaking him. There are several theories as to who he is. Some think he is one of the murderers who escaped from the Moundsville Penitentiary some months ago; others think he is a madman. All know he is a dangerous character and must be killed or captured. " Source: The Record-Union, Sacramento, California, November 22, 1883 Abduct, Multiple Animals 20 1928 Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada A Nootka Indian, and trapper Muchalot Harry, was plying his trade around the Conuma River and had been sleeping when he felt somebody picking him up, bedding and all, and carried him for about three miles by a large Sasquatch like creature. When set down, he found himself surrounded by about 20 of the creatures, both male and female, which he at first thought planned to eat him, as their campsite was littered with large bones. The creatures poked and prodded Harry, seemingly puzzled by his clothing. After a while, they appeared to grow tired of the human curiosity, and many left the camp. Seeing his chance, Harry made a run for it- running right past his own camp to his canoe on the river. He never went trapping in the woods again. Source: Timeline of a Mysterious Universe, Muchalat Harry as told to Peter Bryne, The Search for Big Foot, http://www.sasquatchcanada.com/uploads/9/4/5/1/945132/british_columbia-sasquatch-sighting-reports.pdf Edited December 31, 2014 by Gumshoeye
Guest Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 MIB said: There are people who claimed to have been captured and who escaped. I can think of 3 from the US and 1 from the USSR / Russia. None seem to have been horribly mistreated. The Russian gal, if I recall correctly, eventually chose to return to her previous captor. Uh, nobody has been eaten and returned to tell about it. Susie asks: Have any human body parts been discovered that were not fully eaten and were DNA results positive for the missing person/people? How different would a BF kill be from a bear's kill, or a mountain lion's kill? BTW, Plus 1 to you from me:)
Incorrigible1 Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Hmm, member Pteronarcyd has been missing for several days. I hope he's not been captured by a bigfoot clan and being held captive. Who knows what devious tasks they could be forcing him to do? I hope they're feeding him lots of oysters gathered from nearby waters.
Guest Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) LOL, This is a funny encounter: 1930s to 1950s Old town site of Bella Cools Samson Mack as relayed by his brother Clayton Mack: At about three o'clock in the morning. Samson met a Sasquatch right on the road. Man and saquatch stopped and looked at each other then parted company. Susie replies: Yep, I'd part company with a BF also, rather rapidly. Thank you to Gumshoe for posting all of this information. Edited December 31, 2014 by SweetSusiq
MIB Posted December 31, 2014 Moderator Posted December 31, 2014 Have any human body parts been discovered that were not fully eaten and were DNA results positive for the missing person/people? How different would a BF kill be from a bear's kill, or a mountain lion's kill? ) Probably. Among those David Paulides reported in the 4 books were some who were partially recovered (wow, that's icky) and identified so there must have been DNA, dental records, or identifiable personal possessions. The answer to how it would be different could depend on what BF is. If there is evidence of sharing ... because parts are taken to different locations, that would be one. If there seems to be indication of tool use on the bones rather than just teeth, a forensic anthropologist might be able to tell. Clothing being neatly removed rather than just torn to shreds. Indications of attempts to hide the feeding rather than stuff just scattered might mean something. This brings up something ... I need to re-review the Crater Lake National Park cluster of disappearances. I didn't see anything particularly weird about the 3 boys that went missing but the condition of a couple of recovered corpses much earlier are plain weird. I'm hoping to spend some time in the park backcountry this coming summer so being up to speed on details seems prudent. MIB
Guest Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 I suspect that their behavior would vary as much as does that of humans, within the boundaries that nature has impressed upon them. I, personally, would not be surprised to find evidence of any and all behavior within that framework. Saying, "they all do X" or "none of them do Y" is a bigger step than I am willing to take. I suppose I could be wrong, but I haven't seen any evidence to support it. On the contrary, at this point in the game I think it would be a mistake for humans to assume anything within their physical capabilities is impossible. While I know there is a huge and very vocal disagreement on the shoot-no shoot argument, I for one would not venture into country where I might encounter one without a firearm. But that is just me. In my neck of the woods anyplace I might encounter BF would also be probable bear and mountain lion country, and I don't go there without a firearm either. I've see what a cat can do to a horse, and seen pics of what one can do to a human. It ain't fer me.
Doc Holliday Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Hmm, member Pteronarcyd has been missing for several days. I hope he's not been captured by a bigfoot clan and being held captive. Who knows what devious tasks they could be forcing him to do? I hope they're feeding him lots of oysters gathered from nearby waters. i'd joke about him serving as a party favor if we knew he was OK... hopefully all is well , more like a month or so, iirc.
Guest Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Probably. Among those David Paulides reported in the 4 books were some who were partially recovered (wow, that's icky) and identified so there must have been DNA, dental records, or identifiable personal possessions. The answer to how it would be different could depend on what BF is. If there is evidence of sharing ... because parts are taken to different locations, that would be one. If there seems to be indication of tool use on the bones rather than just teeth, a forensic anthropologist might be able to tell. Clothing being neatly removed rather than just torn to shreds. Indications of attempts to hide the feeding rather than stuff just scattered might mean something. This brings up something ... I need to re-review the Crater Lake National Park cluster of disappearances. I didn't see anything particularly weird about the 3 boys that went missing but the condition of a couple of recovered corpses much earlier are plain weird. I'm hoping to spend some time in the park backcountry this coming summer so being up to speed on details seems prudent. MIB Please be well armed, okay? Will you be alone? Are you carrying some type of homing device so should you fall and break something people can locate you? I understand you know what you are doing, just be careful and take reasonable precautions, and be adequately armed for bear or bigger. Other than all of the above: "Have Fun!" just be safe...Okay? Hmm, member Pteronarcyd has been missing for several days. I hope he's not been captured by a bigfoot clan and being held captive. Who knows what devious tasks they could be forcing him to do? I hope they're feeding him lots of oysters gathered from nearby waters. He was last active November 26th of this year. I hope that he is okay. Does anyone have email or phone numbers for him or his family? Does anyone know where he lives?
Guest Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Probably. Among those David Paulides reported in the 4 books were some who were partially recovered (wow, that's icky) and identified so there must have been DNA, dental records, or identifiable personal possessions. The answer to how it would be different could depend on what BF is. If there is evidence of sharing ... because parts are taken to different locations, that would be one. If there seems to be indication of tool use on the bones rather than just teeth, a forensic anthropologist might be able to tell. Clothing being neatly removed rather than just torn to shreds. Indications of attempts to hide the feeding rather than stuff just scattered might mean something. This brings up something ... I need to re-review the Crater Lake National Park cluster of disappearances. I didn't see anything particularly weird about the 3 boys that went missing but the condition of a couple of recovered corpses much earlier are plain weird. I'm hoping to spend some time in the park backcountry this coming summer so being up to speed on details seems prudent. MIB It only takes a small decent sized piece of body tissue to do a DNA analysis. I really appreciate all of the information you add to this topic. Another plus 1 to you from me:) Thank you.
MIB Posted December 31, 2014 Moderator Posted December 31, 2014 Please be well armed, okay? Will you be alone? Are you carrying some type of homing device so should you fall and break something people can locate you? I understand you know what you are doing, just be careful and take reasonable precautions, and be adequately armed for bear or bigger. Other than all of the above: "Have Fun!" just be safe...Okay? In order, "always", "almost certainly", and "not likely". If I were willing to take on the additional weight of something like a SPOT there's something I'd take first ... portable motion sensor camp alarms. Simply put, if I'm awake, then *I* am the most dangerous thing in the woods. Asleep ... I'm just a snack. Regarding your last post ... if you have your copy of the Western Missing 411 book, read the case of Charles McCullar in Crater Lake NP. Starts on page 59. At the end of the report, look at the description of how the pants and lower leg / foot bones were found. That's one of the few reports that really bothers me on a visceral level. Whatever did that .. is what concerns me. It's something ... else. Not BF. Not animals. Don't think it is humans. So ... what?
Guest Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) OK, I grabbed my books! Looking that up. BRB. Hypothermia? I'll need to really read through it. Thanks for pointing this case out. What should I keep an eye out for? I totally understand feeling that something is just wrong. People lived when I felt that way usually because I caught something early and we could save them. Sorry, I was on the case before Charles. BLUSH! I am now looking at his case:( I hate reading these cases because my boys hike and camp alone. NUMBER 1 ISSUE: They "DESTROYED" his files? Talk tomorrow, ok? I have enjoyed discussing these topics with you. G'night! Edited December 31, 2014 by SweetSusiq
Guest Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 I heard that the very recent "Torn-up Camp" report made by Bob Garrett (Texas) that one of the (two) bodies had been decapitated. Since it is still an open murder investigation he was threatening not to discuss details...
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