Jumpin Johnathon Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 Divergent 1 asked: Well did you camp on the sandbar after finding the magic bigfoot prints or did you load the boat back up and move on down stream? Weird as it may seem, we stayed there camped on that same large sand bar for about 4 days, then I blew my knee out, my partner got pissed at me as we had been planning this for about 2 years and we were going to mine for a little over a months period. He actually was so upset that he skee-dadled and left my arse there. It took another day and a half by myself to load up my share of the gear and drive myself to nearest Health Care (about 120 some-odd miles). I need to clarify one thing though... We do not know for sure what type of prints they were, our minds at that time were just trying to piece together familiar known images, thats why we settled on a Humongous Bear because neither one of us at that time had seen (read about, yes... experienced, no) anything like those prints before. And to this date, despite what I've now seen (footprints wise that I assume are squatch's), what I struggle on is the appearing-disappearing act. Gumshoeye asked: "One question came to mind relative to the prints in the sand bar you say were about 15 feet from the river, is it possible the thing entered the river? I am thinking mountains, river, maybe some noisy water movement that would conceal a splash." My apologies that I wasn't very clear in my explanation, I'll attempt it a bit differently. If the Boat anchored partly on the river and partly on the sand is "Point-A", and the basecamp we were carrying the gear to is Point-B, and you drew a straight unwaivering line between the two for a little over 100 feet, then you have our personal to and fro walking path. Both of us were walking pretty much in our own footsteps back and forth (from camp to the boat and then back again). And we had already made several trips (back and forth) with mining and camping gear. Neither of us saw anything but our prints the first couple of times. Then when the prints were pointed out to me, they were no further than maybe several feet from our initial paths. Again, let me stress this, they were not there prior to our arrival, nor during the first couple of loads in. And my partner would've been about 25-30 feet ahead of me each time in our 'load-in. So again, we should've seen something with our slight walking delay. Now with regards to the prints stopping about 15 feet away from the boat. Keep in mind, the prints are right beside us walking in the same direction as we are (caveat: although a few feet over to our left as were walking back to the boat). When the prints end, it literally ends. There is no smudging or inkling that anything was in the area (Caveat: except for our two sets of prints going towards the boat). And I'm still talking about a straightline (point-a to point- to the boat. Both of us looked for signs in the river, we walked along the shoreline to see if they picked up elsewhere, but nothing was to be found. With regard to the possibility of the river masking any possible sounds. The river was like glass as it widen out and we chose the spot for it's quiet and serenity. The other thing that bothered us (because believe me we talked about this all four days prior to my blow-out), how could a creature simply jump away a full 15+ feet (because we did consider the jumping in the river scenario). And if this was the case, wouldn't the last set of footprints had a deeper/wider print in it's propeling itself (to whereever)? Or for that matter what about where the prints started from? They were some 20+ feet away from our base-camp, where the heck did they originate from? And again, the prints begin, continue and end as if this creature was just strolling along. And if I wasn't clear before, there is nothing on this sandbar (no trees, no brush, nothing but sand), and I believe I stated that were several feet away from the woods (camp-wise), but the length of the sandbar was a good 250-275 feet long/wide. It was picked because we thought it was a good spot with plenty of view. I hope that better clarifies the scenario... Divergent 1 said: "In other words IT was standing right by them observing and walked off in a matter of minutes that it took to tote the gear from the boat to the camp site on the sand bar....very creepy," Yes that pretty well sums it up, except the nagging feeling that reality as I knew it went right out the window. I'm a rational man and like to think in practical and methodical terms. When you have something appear next to you that makes no logical sense, well my friend... your head begins to hurt.. hurt a lot. And now here's something we really didn't piece together till about day 3. In the amount of time it took us both to do our unloadimg routine, there is also no logical way those prints could've been made when you factor in the bit of delay between the two of us walking back and forth. So now what? Do we now have to include 'missing time' with this event? Ohhhhh.. my head is starting to hurt again! (And you folks will learn that when I get anxious or nervous I have a tendency to rely on humor as a sanity (or is that a safety) blanket.. lol) 1
jayjeti Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 Can you tell me how it happened without leaving footprints everywhere? In the first video where Bob Garrett found the torn up camp at night they saw bare footprints they ascribed to bigfoot. When they returned after daylight they claim the tracks were all erased, and someone had driven a vehicle back and forth all over the campsite. which is assumed is part of the government covering up the incident. 1
Guest Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 Your sand bar story is similar to one reported by the fellow documenting the Ape Canyon Attacks. As for BF as mil tools, most of the examples given are medical or scientific experiments. Strange, but not super soldiers. If you believe BF are capable of cloaking and super regenerative powers, then yes that would be something the military would want for sure. Most don't believe BF to be anything more than a North American Ape like creature. But, who knows. The G cover up stuff, well, all I can say is my opinion comes from decades of experience, with some in the agencies cited by conspiracy "victims". I don't get my info from anecdotal stories or Ancient Aliens. Please know I'm not dogging on you, just explaining my opinion. Roswell, that's a weird one, just like the issues David Paulides faces. Roswell was all military for the most part as it was billed as ultimately being a mil project, so who knows. I think Paulides problems could just be the result of gross incompetence and outright violation of procedure. Your posts are good and beneficial to the discussion, so again, please don't take anything I say as an attack on your opinion. That's all any of us have here, opinion. But some of us have expertise in certain areas and we should consider what they say.
Guest Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) Your sand bar story is similar to one reported by the fellow documenting the Ape Canyon Attacks. As for BF as mil tools, most of the examples given are medical or scientific experiments. Strange, but not super soldiers. If you believe BF are capable of cloaking and super regenerative powers, then yes that would be something the military would want for sure. Most don't believe BF to be anything more than a North American Ape like creature. But, who knows. The G cover up stuff, well, all I can say is my opinion comes from decades of experience, with some in the agencies cited by conspiracy "victims". I don't get my info from anecdotal stories or Ancient Aliens. Please know I'm not dogging on you, just explaining my opinion. Roswell, that's a weird one, just like the issues David Paulides faces. Roswell was all military for the most part as it was billed as ultimately being a mil project, so who knows. I think Paulides problems could just be the result of gross incompetence and outright violation of procedure. Your posts are good and beneficial to the discussion, so again, please don't take anything I say as an attack on your opinion. That's all any of us have here, opinion. But some of us have expertise in certain areas and we should consider what they say. “The organization did not say whether or not genetically modified humans currently exist to such an extent, however it is known based on previous reports that human chimeras have already been created outside of the public spotlight. Such scientific experiments have drawn fire from scientists and activists alike, who are demanding for laws to forbid the creation of 'monsters'.†Anthony Gucciardi NaturalSociety Mon, 13 Aug 2012 http://www.sott.net/article/249562-US-Army-Super-Soldier-Genetically-Modified-Humans-Wont-Need-Food-Sleep http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread902387/pg1 http://occupycorporatism.com/darpa-continues-human-experiments-to-create-military-super-soldiers/ In the first video where Bob Garrett found the torn up camp at night they saw bare footprints they ascribed to bigfoot. When they returned after daylight they claim the tracks were all erased, and someone had driven a vehicle back and forth all over the campsite. which is assumed is part of the government covering up the incident. Destroying Tracks Exhibit 1 June 1940-50 Kitlope, British Columbia Clayton Mack, famous grizzly bear hunting guide reports: In the night a Sasquatch howled at a broken window in an old house. Next morning guide and client find large human-like tracks. Clayton Mack finds evidence that the Sasquatch tried to destroy its own tracks. http://www.sasquatchcanada.com/uploads/9/4/5/1/945132/british_columbia-sasquatch-sighting-reports.pdf Exhibit 2 August 7, 1994 Sasquatch Provincial Park, British Columbia Mr. M. Jasmin and Ms. Sylvia Pool report by phone to Thomas Steenburg: Several families camping in the park have Sasquatch sightings and hear strange screaming coming from the hills at night. John Green and Bob Titmus investigate and find someone had quickly trampled over and destroyed all possible Sasquatch footprints in the area. http://www.sasquatchcanada.com/uploads/9/4/5/1/945132/british_columbia-sasquatch-sighting-reports.pdf Exhibit 3 2002 October Stone County, Mississippi Workers with the USDA encounter the carcass of a half eaten dog while conducting timber survey. There was an abundance of large tracks in the area. The Anthropology Department of the nearby University of Southern Mississippi was asked to send someone to identify the tracks but was unable to at the time. The Hattiesburg Zoo was also asked to send a primatologist to the site as soon as possible to cast and identify the tracks. It is unknown if the zoo responded or not. Mississippi Department of Wildlife, Fisheries and Parks was unable to provide any knowledge of what could have made the tracks. All employees of DeSoto National Forest were an email regarding the recent event. We were explicitly instructed to deny any knowledge of it and not to encourage anyone to hunt the creature that made the tracks and ate the dog. We were further instructed to stay clear of that area until further notice although none of did. The tracks were viewed by an anthropology graduate student from USM the day they were discovered and they are described as resembling large chimpanzee tracks. So much so that all zoos were contacted within miles to see if one had escaped. The tracks had two large toes on each foot, like an opposable thumb, closer to the heel that the distal end of the foot. This toe was flattened and atrophic indicating that it no longer served as a necessary appendage. The second and third toes having evolved to take the place of the big toes which would be expected in a semi-bipedal creature. The word expressed to USDA employees was that the tracks were from an unknown and undocumented primate. The local sheriff’s department and FBI sealed the area and removed the carcass of the eaten dog and made casts and took hundreds of photographs but nothing of the findings or conclusion of the incident were ever revealed. The site was raked clean. GCBRO http://www.gcbro.com/MSstone0003.html Edited June 30, 2015 by Gumshoeye
Guest Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 The examples are anecdotal. I know that's all we usually have with anything BF related, but anecdotal just doesn't prove anything because it can be total BS. Concerning #3 above, did anyone keep that email? Was there any follow up with sheriffs office employees. I cannot buy a whole office, likely 3 different agencies, being told there is a monster on the lose and to forget about it, and people say "OK". Is there not one single BF conspiracy story with a verifiable fact? I don't know them all so maybe I'm missing something. It just seems they are almost all very easy to poke holes through. The Paulides stuff is the most puzzling IMHO.
Cisco Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 The examples are anecdotal. I know that's all we usually have with anything BF related, but anecdotal just doesn't prove anything because it can be total BS. Concerning #3 above, did anyone keep that email? Was there any follow up with sheriffs office employees. I cannot buy a whole office, likely 3 different agencies, being told there is a monster on the lose and to forget about it, and people say "OK". Is there not one single BF conspiracy story with a verifiable fact? I don't know them all so maybe I'm missing something. It just seems they are almost all very easy to poke holes through. The Paulides stuff is the most puzzling IMHO. Lol... you hit the nail square on the head "I cannot buy a whole office, likely 3 different agencies, being told there is a monster on the lose and to forget about it, and people say "OK"." That's a great quote and pretty much sums up the extent of all evidence presented by Bob Garret, in reference to the camp sight attack. Nothing he's provided can be verified and all inquiries to find any "official" information, have led to dead ends. So, it just boils down to whether or not somebody is willing to just take Bob's story as gospel, even though he has no tangible evidence that a Bigfoot destroyed the camp. In fact, there's no evidence of an attack on a camp sight at all. Bob could have set the whole thing up himself. I'm not saying he did but there have been no law enforcement reports of camp sight vandalism, that line up with the info Bob has provided. Maybe is was a publicity stunt or maybe it was a massive cover up by the Feds and their top secret Bigfoot team. Which is more likely? 2
Rockape Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 In the first video where Bob Garrett found the torn up camp at night they saw bare footprints they ascribed to bigfoot. When they returned after daylight they claim the tracks were all erased, and someone had driven a vehicle back and forth all over the campsite. which is assumed is part of the government covering up the incident. In the first video there was one obvious human bare footprint. That's all.
Rockape Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 RockApe asked; "Can you tell me how it happened without leaving footprints everywhere?" Excellent question and to be honest I have no intelligently backed answer to this query. I do, there was no bigfoot. So again in your query, I have no idea where those prints are or were, can you please tell me (an immediate observer/witness in an unusual event) what happened to those prints we saw (or even where's the frickin' animal for 'cris sakes')? The prints had been there all along, you just hadn't seen them. They had washed out near the river. You thought bear, because that's what it was. RockApe Asked: " If you had family that had went missing in Sam Houston state park or any other park would you stay quiet about it? In this case apparently some families are doing just that since there are no records anyone can find about this. Another good question that I can't answer but only offer theories on (if even that). I'm also not privy to any records of any supposed cases. So I don't have an answer, perhaps this has nothing to do with an animal at all, perhaps this Garret fellow jumps the gun in his theories on what has transpired. Maybe the supposed missing victims have no families, I mean we can throw awhole lot of what-if's into the fray... Maybe a spaceship beamed them up and took them to another planet. Or maybe it was a bunch of drunks and no one got killed or injured. Or maybe Garrett pulled a hoax.
Guest Divergent1 Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 In my youth I worked for the forestry service and then with the USDA. My career spanned about 4 decades and I had various field and managerial type positions. I think I would have heard a whiff of gossip somewhere, even if it was off the record, but I never did. I'm sure I'm not the only person on this forum with that kind of background, can someone with more recent work experience in these areas please contribute to the government cover up theories? I'm not buying it as an excuse for no evidence that the Garrett story might be even remotely true. And as an aside, Gum, those sources on chimera's are not reliable. There are artificially created chimeras out there but they don't get past the cellular level in a petri dish for medical research and are mainly used in crop plants and livestock where the genetic info is injected at a crucial juncture during IVF, for mammals, germination for plants, to create stocks with specific attributes. Those articles totally distort what's being done by creating a vision of Frankenstein or The Island of Dr. Moreau. Atany rate, the links you posted aren't what I would consider reliable journalism and are mainly for shock value and fear mongering.
Guest diana swampbooger Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex Absolute power corrupts absolutely yeahhhh... corruption. People either shut up & become part of the corruption or disappear.
Guest Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 The military industrial complex is alive and well, but I don't believe Sasquatch is involved.
Bonehead74 Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) False dichotomy, DS. Sorry. Edited June 30, 2015 by Bonehead74
Guest diana swampbooger Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 False dichotomy, DS. Sorry. ^^^ watches only Fox News Channel
Rockape Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 A two-fer, both a personal insult AND a political comment. 1
Guest diana swampbooger Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 A two-fer, both a personal insult AND a political comment. monkey see, monkey do
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