If I Was To Shoot One

[norseman]

I just make a ground blind, set up my fawn decoy and start blowing on my predator call.

[BigTreeWalker]

1 ton Black Angus bulls can really shake a trailer when they jump a cattle guard and decide to scratch their backs on it in the middle of the night!

[Rockape]

Anyone deciding to shoot one needs to be prepared for a fight.  I know most times, only one can be seen, but I have reason to believe they exist in clans, or at the very least - family groups.

 

Most people think of these things as dumb animals - and I note every time I see groups out trying to video them - they're the dumb ones.  I consider the scripted TV shows as high comedy.  Not one of these groups could get film or video of a red fox up close.

 

Lots of blurs, or glows, but they will NEVER get good, high resolution video up close.

 

Camo or ghillie suits are designed to fool men by breaking up their shape.  Doesn't work against these things.

 

So.  You shoot one, you'll likely be in a fight for your life.  Faster than a deer, and strong enough to pull you apart.  They hunt together like wolves, they communicate somehow, they coordinate their attacks, and they are finely attuned to their environment.  They are experts at ambush.  

 

So, you have seen someone shoot a BF or shoot at a BF then be attacked? If not, how do you know this with such certainty?

 

And while it sounds as if you have some experience in hunting them, you obviously didn't shoot one or you wouldn't be here. But have you had any luck baiting them in? I hear Luck's baked beans work.

[Guest OntarioSquatch]

It's a shame Timberghost isn't an active poster here. He'd tell us a thing or two about shooting Sasquatch. His brother shot one in Oklahoma 15 years ago, but they were never directly attacked. As soon as it died, another one came out from the tree line, picked up the body and ran away with it.

 

There's also the incident that supposedly happened with Justin Smeja and his friend, but they weren't attacked either. I think the biggest danger is in trying to recover a body. 

[FarArcher]

 

Anyone deciding to shoot one needs to be prepared for a fight.  I know most times, only one can be seen, but I have reason to believe they exist in clans, or at the very least - family groups.

 

Most people think of these things as dumb animals - and I note every time I see groups out trying to video them - they're the dumb ones.  I consider the scripted TV shows as high comedy.  Not one of these groups could get film or video of a red fox up close.

 

Lots of blurs, or glows, but they will NEVER get good, high resolution video up close.

 

Camo or ghillie suits are designed to fool men by breaking up their shape.  Doesn't work against these things.

 

So.  You shoot one, you'll likely be in a fight for your life.  Faster than a deer, and strong enough to pull you apart.  They hunt together like wolves, they communicate somehow, they coordinate their attacks, and they are finely attuned to their environment.  They are experts at ambush.  

 

So, you have seen someone shoot a BF or shoot at a BF then be attacked? If not, how do you know this with such certainty?

 

And while it sounds as if you have some experience in hunting them, you obviously didn't shoot one or you wouldn't be here. But have you had any luck baiting them in? I hear Luck's baked beans work.

 

No, I didn't shoot one, nor did I see anyone else shoot one and in turn be attacked - and that would not be a sufficient sample size to make any such assumption.

 

I DID have (the second) one under my gun, twenty feet away, with nothing between us but air.  I didn't take the shot because I already had the first one sixty feet away at my seven o'clock position, really growling at me.  It was good fortune born of habit I saw over my shoulder the second one break out of the treeline running at me - as the first one growling at me almost had my full attention.

 

Had I not abruptly turned to check behind me, the second one would have had me from my five o'clock.  And he was FAST.  Once I spotted and turned to face him, he veered and missed me by 20 feet, and ran another 60 feet past me, joining the first one.

 

That growling was a tactical distraction - and almost everyone falls for it - as that appears to be a primary threat.  These critters are pretty clever - but then they've been coordinating and hunting by ambush for millennia.

 

I've also shot enough large animals and men to know for a fact that I didn't have nearly enough gun.  It's a bad feeling.  Our small team was stalked by a man-eating tiger, and he'd circle our small perimeter at night, each night coming closer and closer.  Sometime after midnight on the third night as he closed in, I killed it.  Big, BIG cat. 

 

Your assumption is fair, but I've never hunted these critters.  It doesn't work that way - which is exactly why there are hundreds and possibly thousands of hunters and enthusiasts "hunting" these creatures, and no one brings one in.  Ever really wonder why?  Ever wonder why they'll parallel you noisily, not caring that you hear them?

 

Ever wonder why you can't stalk them?  Can't "knock" one in close?  Can't "whoop" one in close?  Can't put out a decoy, broadcast a call, and not bring them in?  All these coordinated "sweeps," and they can't flush one?  Multiple saturation teams still-hunting, why they can't bring one in close? 

 

Even larger organizations who own/lease/permit large tracts of land with lots of Bigfoots, large teams of investigators and enthusiasts, and it still doesn't do them any good? 

 

Know why?

 

I do.

 

 

About that baiting.  You just keep right on trying those baked beans.  You might want to try adding a bit of Tony Chachere's Creole spice.  That way if Bigfoot doesn't want it, you'll still have something tasty to warm up and eat while you pack up to go home - likely with the window down, after eating all those beans.

 

I can't imagine why TimberGhost would leave here - that's disappointing.  All these warm, friendly folks must have made it a really difficult decision.

Edited September 8, 2015 by chelefoot

[Rockape]

<No, I didn't shoot one, nor did I see anyone else shoot one and in turn be attacked - and that would not be a sufficient sample size to make any such assumption.>

 

OK, so it's just your supposition that shooting one will result in being attacked. Got it.

 

 

<It doesn't work that way - which is exactly why there are hundreds and possibly thousands of hunters and enthusiasts "hunting" these creatures, and no one brings one in.  Ever really wonder why?>

 

Well yeah, I've wondered why no one has ever killed one but I figured it's because they don't actually exist.

 

 

<About that baiting.  You just keep right on trying those baked beans.>

 

We had another fellow come here and tell us Luck's Baked Beans work like a champ in baiting them in. Might want to try it before you knock it.

[hiflier]

Hello Rockape,

 

Yeah but if my memory serves me it just wasn't the plain baked beans. I had something in them like onions or some such thing didn't it?

Edited September 7, 2015 by hiflier

[Guest]

Lucks beans with onions, yes. And he called them trolls.

[hiflier]

Hello ItsAsquatch,

 

WOW, How ya doin' these days? And it was the Sasquatch he called trolls, not the beans, right?

Edited September 7, 2015 by hiflier

[Guest]

I am neither pro kill or against it, I just feel it serves no purpose to take a stand on something like this but I will say I don't hunt any longer but in the spirit of this thread topic I went back through my spreadsheet of several thousand reports and this is what I was able to determine.

 

Reasons given for shootings: Forced entry into homes, Window Peeping, Throwing Rocks, Attempting to grab a person, and Bluff Charging and Killing Livestock.

 

• Several men had lost their weapons in flight or dropped them and ran.
• One trio of campers fled their campsite leaving behind all equipment and wrecked their jeep fleeing.
• One hunter fired on a Bigfoot when it growled and charged causing him to drop his shotgun and run causing it to discharge again, and the hunter reported the Bigfoot passed him running the same direction.  
• Two men on horseback were charged by a mad Bigfoot, one man faints and his partner fires off five rounds fleeing on horseback leaving his partner behind, and says his horse broke two legs in his escape.
• In 1943, a man upset with the mutilation of sheep and calves hunted down a Bigfoot/ Sasquatch and shot it dead. He claims it took sixty shotgun slugs and the fatal shot appeared to be one to the eye which he says entered the brain.  

 

Several instances of multiple Bigfoots responding either during or after shootings with the majority of them fleeing with a wounded or injured Bigfoot/ Sasquatch. Most of the shootings involved rifles and those identified or most often mentioned appear to be .22 caliber rifles and a small number were either .30-06, .30-30 and a couple SKS automatic assault rifles. One report that I read identified gunners used a .50 caliber weapon to dispatch a violent Bigfoot from aboard an unmarked helicopter.

 

The other half of long gun type weapons mentioned were 12 ga., 20 ga., 410, or 870 shotguns.

 

An unbelievable number of weapons involved handguns most identified as pistols or when they were specific named .38, .357. .44 or .45 caliber weapons.   

 

While reviewing these reports one weapon was identified as a bow hunter who shot an arrow striking the Bigfoot.

[Guest OntarioSquatch]

• In 1943, a man upset with the mutilation of sheep and calves hunted down a Bigfoot/ Sasquatch and shot it dead. He claims it took sixty shotgun slugs and the fatal shot appeared to be one to the eye which he says entered the brain.  

 

Did he have bad aim?

[Guest]

^^^

Don’t know, he didn’t say and it wasn’t reported. Sort of sounds like over kill doesn't it? Given the time era and the location (Georgia) I get the impression there were more than one person involved in the hunt because it mentioned something about the body being hauled into town on a pickup truck. It said it so large and heavy it had to be hauled by truck and the legs and heels were dragging in the dirt.  

Edited September 7, 2015 by Gumshoeye

[Rockape]

Hello Rockape,

 

Yeah but if my memory serves me it just wasn't the plain baked beans. I had something in them like onions or some such thing didn't it?

LOL, yeah, I do believe it was "Luck's baked beans with onions".

[FarArcher]

<No, I didn't shoot one, nor did I see anyone else shoot one and in turn be attacked - and that would not be a sufficient sample size to make any such assumption.>

 

OK, so it's just your supposition that shooting one will result in being attacked. Got it.

 

 

<It doesn't work that way - which is exactly why there are hundreds and possibly thousands of hunters and enthusiasts "hunting" these creatures, and no one brings one in.  Ever really wonder why?>

 

Well yeah, I've wondered why no one has ever killed one but I figured it's because they don't actually exist.

 

 

<About that baiting.  You just keep right on trying those baked beans.>

 

We had another fellow come here and tell us Luck's Baked Beans work like a champ in baiting them in. Might want to try it before you knock it.

 

I didn't say no one has ever killed one.  You did.

 

Further, for you to suggest it's just my personal supposition to arrive at that conclusion is to ignore scores after scores of narratives over hundreds of years. 

 

But since you're a non-believer - I can't figure out why you're wasting your time here, with some 5,000 posts - after figuring they don't exist.  Just trying to help - I've seen so many job openings for a Resident Skeptic on medical blogs, archaeological blogs, afterlife blogs, and voodoo mojo blogs - and I hate to see anyone with well informed talents to unnecessarily limit their horizons - not that you are, of course.  Just speaking in general.

 

I fail to understand folks attributing things to me that I didn't say - and if it continues, it could become a really bad habit.  I mean, you went to the trouble of pasting my words, you think it might be more productive to actually read the post as it was written, or is misquoting the customary practice around here?  I just want to know how this works so that I can play on an even table.

 

You're the one who brought up the baked beans - I'll leave that entirely to you.  I was just making a friendly suggestion to not only eliminate waste if a Bigfoot doesn't eat them, but to provide you a spicy alternative to the limited presentation normally found in canned beans when you warm them up. 

[Guest]

 

• In 1943, a man upset with the mutilation of sheep and calves hunted down a Bigfoot/ Sasquatch and shot it dead. He claims it took sixty shotgun slugs and the fatal shot appeared to be one to the eye which he says entered the brain.  

 

Did he have bad aim?

 

Actually the underlying purpose for adding that anecdotal tidbit of 1943 was that it was mentioned in some old Native American writings that I recall out of the old Pacific Northwest or California whereas they mentioned their great-grandparents aimed their arrows for the same spot and for the same reason and result.

Edited September 7, 2015 by Gumshoeye