Twist Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 So you prove my point, NASA was never part of the military. Your evidence clearly states that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgerm Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 2 hours ago, xspider1 said: I think i get your drift, georgerm. Perhaps we can’t say, at this point, if they are paranormal or not. Certainly, their apparent physical prowess, as incredible as it seems, could be comparable to that of other great apes. Again, ‘paranormal’ being defined as: ‘of or relating to the claimed occurrence of an event or perception without scientific explanation’, seems to apply, at least for now. For instance, Science cannot explain why clear images of them can not be captured with digital cameras, but, that does seem to be the case. Dr. Mathew Johnson, psychiatrist in Washington states, states one paranormal form of bigfoot called the Xanue is always out of focus when photographed. What is the science connected to this stunt? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xspider1 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, georgerm said: What is the science connected to this stunt? In my opinion, that is perhaps the crux of the entire discussion. What are the woo-woos that make Bigfoot, so far, impossible to prove to Science? Their digital camera disabling characteristics seem to be right up there with their ability to leave no findable and/or Scientifically verifiable remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twist Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Could there be some biological reason for distorted pictures that could also explain its ability to “camouflage” itself in the woods? Some aspect of its hair that distorts or bends light? We know certain animals like polar bears have hollow hair to aid in heat retention. Just WAG here?? 🤷🏻🤷🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xspider1 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) That’s where I’m at on the paranormal aspects of Bigfoot, Twist: Wondering and Guessing. This doesn’t apply to anyone who knows that they exist as described, but at this point, to ‘believe’ that Bigfoot exist seems to require believing that they have abilities unknown to mainstream Science. (edit to add: of course that has only happened about a trillion times, throughout history). Edited September 17, 2023 by xspider1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 37 minutes ago, Twist said: So you prove my point, NASA was never part of the military. Your evidence clearly states that. Correct. But a previous incarnation of it was. My father was a Navy flier and the 1950's was a prime UFO era. I think he believed in them and so I think that's where I got my info. We had also listened to Sputnik-1's signal on his ham radio radio rig. Weird times to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7.62 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Twist said: Could there be some biological reason for distorted pictures that could also explain its ability to “camouflage” itself in the woods? Some aspect of its hair that distorts or bends light? We know certain animals like polar bears have hollow hair to aid in heat retention. Just WAG here?? 🤷🏻🤷🏻 They do but that was through evolution because of the climate they inhabit Bigfoot by all accounts are the top predators in the forest why would they develop that kind of trait through 10's of thousands of years . Being able to camo is for the most part in species that are prey and in for the most part sea creatures or reptiles to avoid being eaten . Top of the line predators that I know of have nothing like that unless you want to include the stripes of a tiger that can aid it in low lying grass when it makes a stalk . Edited September 17, 2023 by 7.62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twist Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 minute ago, 7.62 said: They do but that was through evolution because of the climate they inhabit Bigfoot by all accounts are the top predators in the forest why would they develop that kind of trait through 10's of thousands of years . Being able to camo is for the most part in species that are prey and in for the most part sea creatures or reptiles to avoid being eaten . Top of the line predators that I know of have nothing that I know of unless you want to include the stripes of a tiger that can aid it in low lying grass when it makes a stalk . Great points, and I have nothing to counter them. You’re right, developing unique traits usually require a certain catalyst, as you mentioned. They don’t develop for no reason. So, how long a have they been around and how long have they potentially been alpha predators? Could they have been around when something else could have been hunting them? Again, WAG, just turning over any potential rock or line of thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntster Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 19 hours ago, 7.62 said: .........Do they have to be paranormal to believe the woo ?........ I think so. They're either normal or they have powers that most animals don't have, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntster Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 15 hours ago, Catmandoo said: .....Some humans have extra abilities........ Yup. Thus paranormal appears to be a real phenomenon that Science cannot explain, and scientists often deny. Sorta' like sasquatches........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntster Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 9 hours ago, georgerm said: ........Are these guys BFs?....... Was Zana an almas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIB Posted September 17, 2023 Moderator Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, georgerm said: Dr. Mathew Johnson, psychiatrist in Washington states, states one paranormal form of bigfoot called the Xanue is always out of focus when photographed. What is the science connected to this stunt? Dr J? There is no science involved. Tip: you should look into his background, ALL OF IT, especially his time practicing in Grants Pass, OR, before you cite him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7.62 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 41 minutes ago, Twist said: Great points, and I have nothing to counter them. You’re right, developing unique traits usually require a certain catalyst, as you mentioned. They don’t develop for no reason. So, how long a have they been around and how long have they potentially been alpha predators? Could they have been around when something else could have been hunting them? Again, WAG, just turning over any potential rock or line of thinking. All good questions but no answers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7.62 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Huntster said: I think so. They're either normal or they have powers that most animals don't have, right? Most? I'm going to say all but why does it have to be described as paranormal . What if they are not from here . if they found microscopic organisms on a sample of frozen water that can't be explained by our biology that we know is it called paranormal then ? Lets say from Mars Edited September 18, 2023 by 7.62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xspider1 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, 7.62 said: Most? I'm going to say all but why does it have to be described as paranormal . What if they are not from here Being not from here, would be the most likely characteristic to involve the paranormal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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