How have the "woo-woo" reports affected your opinion?

[Twist]

So you prove my point, NASA was never part of the military.  Your evidence clearly states that.  

[georgerm]

2 hours ago, xspider1 said:

 

I think i get your drift, georgerm.  Perhaps we can’t say, at this point, if they are paranormal or not.  Certainly, their apparent physical prowess, as incredible as it seems, could be comparable to that of other great apes.

 

Again, ‘paranormal’ being defined as: 

‘of or relating to the claimed occurrence of an event or perception without scientific explanation’, seems to apply, at least for now.

 

For instance, Science cannot explain why clear images of them can not be captured with digital cameras, but, that does seem to be the case.

Dr. Mathew Johnson, psychiatrist in Washington states, states one paranormal form of bigfoot called the Xanue is always out of focus when photographed. What is the science connected to this stunt? 

[xspider1]

9 minutes ago, georgerm said:

What is the science connected to this stunt? 

 

In my opinion, that is perhaps the crux of the entire discussion.  What are the woo-woos that make Bigfoot, so far, impossible to prove to Science?

 

Their digital camera disabling characteristics seem to be right up there with their ability to leave no findable and/or Scientifically verifiable remains.

[Twist]

 Could there be some biological reason for distorted pictures that could also explain its ability to “camouflage” itself in the woods?  Some aspect of its hair that distorts or bends light?    We know certain animals like polar bears have hollow hair to aid in heat retention.  Just WAG here?? 🤷🏻🤷🏻

[xspider1]

That’s where I’m at on the paranormal aspects of Bigfoot, Twist: Wondering and Guessing.  

 

This doesn’t apply to anyone who knows that they exist as described, but at this point, to ‘believe’ that Bigfoot exist seems to require believing that they have abilities unknown to mainstream Science. (edit to add: of course that has only happened about a trillion times, throughout history).

Edited September 17, 2023 by xspider1

[hiflier]

37 minutes ago, Twist said:

So you prove my point, NASA was never part of the military.  Your evidence clearly states that.  

 

Correct. But a previous incarnation of it was. My father was a Navy flier and the 1950's was a prime UFO era. I think he believed in them and so I think that's where I got my info. We had also listened to Sputnik-1's signal on his ham radio radio rig. Weird times to be sure.

[7.62]

44 minutes ago, Twist said:

 Could there be some biological reason for distorted pictures that could also explain its ability to “camouflage” itself in the woods?  Some aspect of its hair that distorts or bends light?    We know certain animals like polar bears have hollow hair to aid in heat retention.  Just WAG here?? 🤷🏻🤷🏻

They do but that was through evolution because of the climate they inhabit 

Bigfoot  by all accounts are the top predators in the forest why would they develop that kind of trait through 10's of thousands of years . Being able to camo is for the most part 

in species that are prey and in for the most part sea creatures   or reptiles  to avoid being eaten  . Top of the line predators that I know of have nothing like that

unless you want to include the stripes of a tiger that can aid it in low lying grass when it makes a stalk . 

Edited September 17, 2023 by 7.62

[Twist]

1 minute ago, 7.62 said:

They do but that was through evolution because of the climate they inhabit 

Bigfoot  by all accounts are the top predators in the forest why would they develop that kind of trait through 10's of thousands of years . Being able to camo is for the most part 

in species that are prey and in for the most part sea creatures   or reptiles  to avoid being eaten  . Top of the line predators that I know of have nothing that I know of

unless you want to include the stripes of a tiger that can aid it in low lying grass when it makes a stalk . 

Great points, and I have nothing to counter them.  You’re right,  developing unique traits usually require a certain catalyst, as you mentioned.  They don’t develop for no reason.   So, how long a

have they been around and how long have they potentially been alpha predators?     Could they have been around when something else could have been hunting them?   Again, WAG, just turning over any potential rock or line of thinking.   

[Huntster]

19 hours ago, 7.62 said:

.........Do they have to be paranormal to believe the  woo ?........

 

I think so. They're either normal or they have powers that most animals don't have, right?

 

 

[Huntster]

15 hours ago, Catmandoo said:

.....Some humans have extra abilities........

 

Yup. Thus paranormal appears to be a real phenomenon that Science cannot explain, and scientists often deny. 

 

Sorta' like sasquatches........

[Huntster]

9 hours ago, georgerm said:

........Are these guys BFs?.......

 

Was Zana an almas?

[MIB]

1 hour ago, georgerm said:

Dr. Mathew Johnson, psychiatrist in Washington states, states one paranormal form of bigfoot called the Xanue is always out of focus when photographed. What is the science connected to this stunt? 

 

Dr J?   There is no science involved.    Tip: you should look into his background, ALL OF IT, especially his time practicing in Grants  Pass, OR, before you cite him.  

[7.62]

41 minutes ago, Twist said:

Great points, and I have nothing to counter them.  You’re right,  developing unique traits usually require a certain catalyst, as you mentioned.  They don’t develop for no reason.   So, how long a

have they been around and how long have they potentially been alpha predators?     Could they have been around when something else could have been hunting them?   Again, WAG, just turning over any potential rock or line of thinking.   

All good questions but no answers 

[7.62]

49 minutes ago, Huntster said:

 

I think so. They're either normal or they have powers that most animals don't have, right?

 

 

Most?  I'm going to say all    but why does it have to be described as paranormal . What if they are not from here . if they found microscopic organisms on a sample of frozen water that can't be explained by our biology that we know is it called paranormal then ? Lets say from Mars 

Edited September 18, 2023 by 7.62

[xspider1]

7 minutes ago, 7.62 said:

Most?  I'm going to say all    but why does it have to be described as paranormal . What if they are not from here 

 

Being not from here, would be the most likely characteristic to involve the paranormal.