Rick Dyer Again (Continued)

[Guest]

Good Morning Mel

I believe you are spot on. I suspect that RD either knew of Minnows film, might possibly have been a part of it, might have even gotten kicked off as is rumored, and has played this to his advantage, incorporating it into his story to include some truths.

The most dangerous untruths are truths moderately distorted. ~Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

Well I hope I am right. Thank you for your kind words.

You know, the question has always been -- why didn't W.Lett (I hope I am spelling his name right it's been a few years) sue Dyer and Whitten over the 50 thousand?? W. Lett being the guy who allegedly signed the check for 50 grand to the two guys for the 2008 frozen bigfoot - brought to his property in Indiana. One would think, if W. Lett had signed over that check - he would have grounds - as that was not a dead bigfoot, but a fraud. Why didn't Lett sue Biscardi? Biscardi was the front man in the news - and running all the angles. W. Lett (as stated by Biscardi) was a financial backer for Biscardi and his "searchingforbigfoot" group or whatever he calls it. Whitten and Dyer simply started the game.. OR did they? Was Biscardi in on this from Day 1. Did Biscardi actually sign a check for 50 grand to W. Lett who then turned over 50 grand to Dyer and Whitten. No one has ever seen the check and Lett has never spoken about this.

IF Biscardi had thought he could make his 50 grand back from the 2008 situation (through marketing ventures as discussed by Whitten and Dyer) he would have, in fact, he already had the plans drawn up and showed them to Dyer and Whitten - but he couldn't follow through when the truth came spilling out after the CNN press conference.

Why would Biscardi be working with Dyer now - if in fact Biscardi was just as much of a victim as he claimed to be?? We know Biscardi is part of this Minnow films production... I am fairly certain Dyer is as well. That connection between the two men is still there.

So,, why would you keep in contact with someone who took 50 grand from you?? That makes no sense. Yet, we know there is still a connection between the two men. Unless this is less about the Film - and more about marketing and other "ventures" (expeditions) after the film comes out... I bet Dyer (if still in the movie) will be portrayed as a man who wants nothing more than to expose hoaxers - and he will show the world how easy it is to fool people with fake bigfoot claims. IF he stays in this film (in order to keep making money) he has to come out looking like the man fighting for truth and exposing hoaxers..

There is an end game to all this.. I think Biscardi is the financial backer Dyer talks about.

We will see.

Edited March 7, 2013 by Melissa

[Guest njjohn]

Here Melissa -

http://bigfootforums...180#entry695294

Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:34 AM

Musky answered my question re body storage: (in FB message)

Musky Allen

I only have few details from the facility manager through my lawyer. This information was requested for my ability to properly view the body. It's been partially embalmed (organs and cavity vitals) kept in a cool room...I will be able to touch the body![/font]

&

http://bigfootforums...200#entry695322

05 February 2013 - 12:10 PM

Musky Allen

Yes, cool room. You cant freeze tissue without the ice crystals breaking down and destroying the composition at molecular levels. This is crucial in forensic studies (which hasnt been done yet) at a later time![/font]

Had to dig back to page 110 of the locked thread. See, it's helpful to remember everything sometimes

Of course he couldn't post here, so he was PMing Violet. Hopefully he doesn't try to throw her under the bus and claim he was taken out of context.

*Edited in quotes. They're on page 110 & 111 of the locked thread, so you can search for them manually if someone needs to verify.

[Guest]

Both pages are gone...

[Guest]

I guess i have a question:

For all those people who Believe it is a HOAX why are you spending time posting to those of us who either believe it isn't or the ones who are wait and see?

I guess to me it just doesn't make sense that you would sit here and waste your time trying to convince people who obviously are not going to be convinced by anything you have to put out.

What are your goals in this?

[Guest]

Woo Hoo

The BBC Rocks!!!

[Guest njjohn]

I post because those involved in the discussion aren't the only ones who view this. If someone new shows up, they deserve to know all the information. RD deleted all his old videos to eliminate the contradictions. You can't expect someone coming into this fresh to make up their mind without all the facts.

The same question could be reversed, and I'd expect the answer to be the same. If it's different, then please share.

[Guest]

First let me say Racer X and Jonny bigfoot both reported what a woman posted on FBFB....She is the one who said she had insider information about the documentary being about hoaxers and Dyer not having anything lined up with A&E. Please show me the half truth posted on either of their pages.

I would like to know specifically what you are referring to as a half truth.

Cath,

We could ask you the same questions? Why are you here? What are your motives in trying to convince us "non believers" that this isn't a hoax?

[Cotter]

I believe it is a hoax, but am not posting about it much.

I am reading the thread and using it as a personal study in 'footery beliefs.

[Guest]

I will respect any and all options and comments, and will consider them all in my thought process. I think everyone is being respectful since the thread reopened which I appreciate greatly. Contrasting thoughts and opinions is what educated discussions are about.

[Guest]

Njjohn said:

Yes, cool room. You cant freeze tissue without the ice crystals breaking down and destroying the composition at molecular levels. This is crucial in forensic studies (which hasnt been done yet) at a later time![/font]

Oh boy.. LOL. That was a big boo boo.. Thank you for posting this, I don't know how I missed this one. I don't know anything about forensic studies - but one would assume the best time to take samples is IMMEDIATELY. Cells, blood everything begins the decomposition process within minutes of the death of whatever..

6 months -- in a cool room?? Lord have mercy the smell must be wicked.. I can't even imagine being in a room with a decomposing corpse -- of 1 month let alone 6 months..

CathMcMillen said:

What are your goals in this?

My "goals" are my own. And, that isn't the topic of this thread. The thread is here to discuss this current situation with Dyer - good and bad. At least I didn't think this thread was ONLY for those who believe Dyer's story.. Moderators can correct me if I am mistaken. If I am - I will be happy to move along.

Edited March 7, 2013 by Melissa

[Guest VioletX]

@ Melissa, if we can unearth people who have gone on an expedition that could be interesting or it could show how popular the Dyer thread is.

As for the film, angle, we could argue about what it is about and when and where, I am hoping that with enough pressure Minnow will release a date it will be out in the BBC, however, I strongly doubt they are going to tell us anything about the plot.

Edited March 7, 2013 by VioletX

[Guest]

I am waiting to see the final end of it. Like I said I am on the fence yet I will not blast him for what he has done in the past.

I don't view what he did in the past. I am aware of it. But as a Human Being if we can forgive many people for the wrongs of the past. Criminals, Politicians and regular people who have said or done things that they may regret. I would rather give them the the benefit that they have changed. We all have done things or said things in our pasts. yes it affects us now but we can change.

So I will follow this story because "IF" he does have it and its all real its a WOW.

The information I get from Musky or Others on facebook and or PM's in forums make things more interesting. Since I am able to look past the issues of the past of these people. I give what they say in my mind a chance. I also believe many who know are keeping their mouths shut because its better to stay silent than be trashed like so many like to do.

[Guest WldHrtRnch]

I am having fun. And I believe I have already previously responded to you Cath, that I am not here to try and convince you or anyone else that this is a hoax. Some of us are here to point out and reiterate the inconsistencies in RD's story. This has been a whirlwind of an entry into BF for me, with the Daisy in a Box story, the Ketchum study and now a dead BF, WOW.

[Guest]

I think I,m here because i'm not a geneticist?

[Guest]

If the movie is really about hoaxers and the people they manage to fool. . . I tell you what. . . they absolutely struck gold with this case!!!

Plussed for sure

You ain't just whistling Dixie....

It's all part of the script....