Guest Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 JackiLB, I nor anyone else needs to prove it's a hoax or prove it is not a hoax. That's hogwash. Yes, everyone can stop asking us to prove this is a hoax. Turn around and ask RD to prove what he says is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 I thought April 27th is the Film Festival in New York where the film will debut. So we have till then right? Yes, everyone can stop asking us to prove this is a hoax. Turn around and ask RD to prove what he says is true. He is under a NDA so he isn't the only one who has say over the body from what I understand. So its why we wait. No problem with waiting, CathMcmillan. Except for the loss of time. I've been waiting 30 years. I'm sure April 28th will be just another day...just like April 27th. Just like 2008. Just like Daisy is in the box. Just like Biscardi's claims. Just like Dyers. Just like Melba's. Just like Ericksons. Well I would be posting here as well. So waiting is no real loss of my time. I would still be interested in the subject. I will still go hiking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 He is under a NDA so he isn't the only one who has say over the body from what I understand. So its why we wait. Except he doesn't shut up about it. He has been blabbing about it for months. Never offers any proof though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Except he doesn't shut up about it. He has been blabbing about it for months. Never offers any proof though. Oh don't get me wrong I think he loves the Drama the pushing the buttons. But just because he does that doesn't mean he isn't part owner of this body and they actually have a Bigfoot.. I like the what ifs in things. Guess I am gullible in that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 (edited) There is NOTHING to prove at the moment! If Dyer has a body, he has to PROVE that!!! There is no need to disprove anything, because until he puts proof forward it's poppycock! In no scientific field does the general audience have to prove claims of researchers. It is the researcher's responsibility to prove something. IF THERE IS A BODY, DYER, MUSKY, FB/FB et al have to prove what they have. We don't have to disprove it, because there is NOTHING to disprove! St. G- Edited February 26, 2013 by St. George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 In no scientific field does the general audience have to prove claims of researchers. It is the researcher's responsibility to prove something. Well is Dryer a Scientist? Seriously putting the scientific evidence on a Person like RD or Me is not going to happen. I am a IT Manager and Graphic Artist. So Unless I missed something and RD is a Biologist of some kind asking him to be scientific in his methods is asking for a lot. Many of who are into bigfoot do it for the enjoyment and we are not scientists. We may have had an experience in past and want answers from anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VioletX Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 HOAX P A R T Y Very funny posts today -thanks! Including the cheesecake debate, and I agree Ronn1 about going to dinner with njjohn, haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Well is Dryer a Scientist? Seriously putting the scientific evidence on a Person like RD or Me is not going to happen. I am a IT Manager and Graphic Artist. So Unless I missed something and RD is a Biologist of some kind asking him to be scientific in his methods is asking for a lot. Many of who are into bigfoot do it for the enjoyment and we are not scientists. We may have had an experience in past and want answers from anyone. Are you serious? That's your defense? You aren't a scientist so you don't have to prove your claims? LOL. FOR ANYONE WHO MAKES A CLAIM, SCIENTIST OR NOT, THEY MUST PROVIDE PROOF FOR THEIR CLAIM, not the other way around. If someone says they bowled a 300 game, they have to prove it, not the audience. If someone says they have the body of a dead cat, let alone bigfoot, they have to show proof! I don't have to prove they don't have it. Dyer et al have a body or not. They have to prove they do. I don't have to prove they don't. If they bring a "body" out, then the community (scientists and non-scientists) gets to scrutinize it and either prove or disprove that. Until then, they simply have a claim THEY have to PROVE. St. G- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dopelyrics Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Well is Dryer a Scientist? Seriously putting the scientific evidence on a Person like RD or Me is not going to happen. I am a IT Manager and Graphic Artist. So Unless I missed something and RD is a Biologist of some kind asking him to be scientific in his methods is asking for a lot. Many of who are into bigfoot do it for the enjoyment and we are not scientists. We may have had an experience in past and want answers from anyone. I have to say this is a very, very weak argument in defense of Rick Dyer or indeed anyone making outlandish (even not so outlandish) claims. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeafTalker Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Allright, so many of you have stuck behind Rick even despite the inconsistencies with his changing story, and despite Musky Allen's inability to keep a story straight. So I have a question: How do you think you will feel when this is finally revealed as a hoax? Will you be OK with Dyer mocking you? Dyer's been mocking Bigfooters all along. He regularly says bigfooters are gullible. I think this is a good question (if, as someone said, you turn the "when" into an "if"). I think sometimes you have to risk being wrong. What's so bad about that? You need to be "wrong" and make mistakes to grow. It's also not good to be in fear of other people's judgments -- to be fearful someone will criticize you for being wrong. If you're so afraid of that criticism, you never speak; and if you never speak, you imply (to yourself) that you don't have the right to speak, which is not true, and which is a dishonor to yourself. I don't look forward to being wrong -- but I very well could be. And I have to be okay with that. I need to be lighter about whether I'm right or wrong. I make myself too important if I think that whether I'm right or wrong matters. I don't think it matters. So it's a good exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 (edited) If someone says they bowled a 300 game, they have to prove it, not the audience. Right so the entire audience says yep saw the person bowl it I was their. you would not accept that? So to prove it would you take a scan of it? because i could photo manipulate it so it looks like they did and you wouldn't be able to tell. So is that proof? If the computer system shows the 300 game is that proof? Can manipulate that too. What is Proof of anything in this day and age? We can get a fake audience to see the body and verify it. We can pay them money to keep silent. What will you accept as Real Proof? Look I am not saying its a defense. I don't know proper Scientific procedure except what I learned in college or read on line. So you think RD is any more experienced? I am just saying your trying to slap what Science should do and well RD is not a scientist. I don't look forward to being wrong -- but I very well could be. And I have to be okay with that. I need to be lighter about whether I'm right or wrong. I make myself too important if I think that whether I'm right or wrong matters. I don't think it matters. I agree I could be wrong as well. So what he makes fun of me, Won't be the first time people call me names. I guess the reverse would be IF RD proves he has it how will all the people saying its a hoax feel? Edited February 26, 2013 by CathMcmillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmaker Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 There is a difference between simply being wrong and being blind to the obvious. And for, what I can discern as motive, ...for the fun of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VioletX Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 So there is nothing really newsworthy today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 There is a difference between simply being wrong and being blind to the obvious. And for, what I can discern as motive, ...for the fun of it? I'm not blind to the past stuff he did. I don't think many of us who sit and go we will wait are that blind. But no harm in waiting. I think we all want the proof in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmaker Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 So there is nothing really newsworthy today? Nope, not in this thread. Never has been since page one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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