Guest DWA Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Uh......DWA? Just makin' a point about what we know....and what we might not.... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronD Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 On reading that last sentence through their remote bion feed, two aliens looked at each other, laughed, and pointed X'strch'xn for the Alpha Centauri system for a spot of cofteathane. Just sayin'. I was commenting on the alien babble, err whatever it was LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 ^^^^Sorry, can't confirm anything about alien language; spacecraft; alien beverages; REALLY REALLY large bones that I ...um...whoops.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmaker Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 You are correct, LarryP.....to the suffering of the public, and those who can appreciate real science Could you explain, please, Aaron what you consider "real" science to be and how you appreciate its differences from "false" science? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronD Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Real science is when actual results are given to the public regardless of their implication, not what some status quo deems to be in agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmaker Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 So it's not so much the science you have an issue with as much as it is the release of information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronD Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Or the control of information for an agenda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JDL Posted January 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2014 Exactly! Science in its purest form is unrestrained by agendas, or by those who control resources. It is collaborative, and all hypotheses are explored without prejudice. In real terms, however, science costs money. As a result, scientists must demonstrate the value of their research in order to continue it, and usually must convince funding sources of the value of their proposed research before they can gain funding to pursue it. This skews the scientific process, and promotes corrupt science. A scientist has to eat, so he has the following choices: 1. Find someone, somewhere who will fund their research without condition or constraint (very rare today - only those with the highest status may achieve this, and usually only if they have a demonstrated track record of producing results of value). 2. Find someone who perceives value in their proposed research and convince them that if they fund the research, the results will provide some form of return, either economic, social, or political. 3. Find someone who has an economic, social, or political agenda and perform research that supports their agenda at their direction. So, he who controls funding, controls what research is performed and scientist quickly learn that if they want to enjoy continued funding, they need to provide results that the funding entity considers valuable. So if I tell you I am looking for proof that field mice are turning green because butterflies are sneezing more often and offer to fund you while you prove this, most will attempt to gain as much funding as possible, for as long as possible, by demonstrating results that a) do not result in a loss of funding, and encourage further funding. Today when you read a study you have to also look at who funded the study and what that organization's agenda is. How does the funder benefit from the results of the study and how might this relationship have skewed the study? Powell, as a case in point, was in a position of influence and clearly had a prejudicial position, if not an agenda, and he used his influence in a corrupt manner to skew the course of research in the field over which he had influence. At the very least, for any who have been demanding proof that the Smithsonian has ever acted with prejudice, to suppress certain findings, they now have it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronD Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Well said, JDL !! One of the best accounts in the book, of a large 8'7" skeleton, and ended in "The skeleton is now in possession of XXXXville collector". At least it wasn't the worn out "was handed over to the smithsonian and thereafter lost...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotter Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Plussed JDL, some good posts comin' off those fingertips today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronD Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Nah, that's the norm for JDL, at least on this subject! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIB Posted January 4, 2014 Moderator Share Posted January 4, 2014 Or the control of information for an agenda Yay! Hadta plus that one. MIB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronD Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Just tellin it like it is! JDL goes a bit more in depth with that, but he's spot on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDL Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Thanks, guys. Appreciate the feedback. Just trying to make sure it's worth reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) Hello JDL, For some people as yerself it seems ta jes come nachrul. A bumble-fingered ijut like me stands mute by comparison. I need a nap now. Edited January 4, 2014 by hiflier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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